Posted on Friday, Dec 14, 2007 - 9:49 am:

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Lameness: Diseases of the Lower Limb: Inferior Check Ligament Desmitis:
Check ligament surgery
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Posted by Lynn Seitz on Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 - 2:02 pm:
I own an APHA filly that had check ligament surgery on 11/30/07 at 8 1/2 months of age. She acquired a slightly clubbed foot @ 4 months of age which was really not improving with regular farrier work. Both my vet and the farrier recommended the surgery. The incision site is high on the cannon bone and toward the rear of the whole knee joint, making it somewhat difficult to get a good compression wrap to stay on, but I'm doing the best I can. Have been hand walking twice a day, 10 minutes each time. She's in a double stall too, and can be somewhat active in there. The vet was out today to remove sutures. The incision site was bloody with excessive granulation tissue forming. He removed the sutures, left me with Panalog/DMSO to put on the site at bandage changes, and put her back on Sulfa's and Banamine. Vet said he'd never seen one do this before (although I don't believe it's a really common surgery in his practice) and said the filly may have been having a reaction to the sutures or my compression wrap was less than adequate. Any ideas or words of wisdom here Dr. O?

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Respiratory System: Noises and Decreased Performane in Exercising Horses: Roarers:
Problems after surgery
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Posted by Robert L. Lang on Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 - 5:13 pm:
Hello all, I'm about to be given a 4 year old trotter who had throat surgery done earlier this year. It's been said that something went wrong with the surgery and the horse can't race anymore. I've seen him shortly after surgery and he had water and food running out of his nostrils while eating and drinking and was coughing a lot, too. Also no more voice. They started riding him lightly recently and he's roaring after about ten minutes of light trotting work, but doesn't seem in distress. He's otherwise very healthy looking when out in his paddock, playing, running without any problems. He's not being ridden anywhere near collection, since he's just being started. Is there any information on these "gone-wrong" surgeries, what is to be expected, how much can this horse do, what would I have to watch out for (respiratory diseases maybe). Currently I have nobody to ask, and the vet who performed the surgery would not give me any unbiased answers. I couldn't even find out what has gone wrong during surgery. There are four other horses of this breeder/trainer who had surgery done, four of them are racing again, although without voice. Thank You for any information Robert

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Lameness: Diseases of the Upper Rear Limb: Stifle Lameness: Stifle Lock: Upward Fixation of the Patella :
UFP in Italian Trotter
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Posted by Robert L. Lang on Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 - 5:29 pm:
Hello Dr. O, I am happy to report good news on my little trotter with UFP. I have been trying anything non-invasive to help him with his problem, but with mixed results. He kept locking up from time to time, usually after about three weeks of having his feet done (unshod, square toe). The massageing helped when he was inside more during the colder months. About five months ago I changed farriers. He used to be trimmed by a (you guessed it) trotter specialist before. This new farrier does mostly riding horses, but has done trotters before. I told him the problem and he trimmed Fosco's hind feet short and more upright, with a nice brakeover. And he has not locked up since! Not even after 6 weeks of having feet done. I am very glad that it was just this simple adjustment that was needed. Robert

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It will get better
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Posted by Diane E. on Friday, Dec 14, 2007 - 5:32 am:
Hi all just have to vent a little. After a horrid ice storm Tues. We lost power. In a nutshell it was quite an adventure I would rather not re-live. Thurs. the girl that works my routes with me just up and quit, now I have double routes in the ice no less.
My internet is from an antanae on our roof, it iced over so wouldn't work. I decided to climb a ladder and see if I could knock the ice off with an extension rod...of course it wasn't long enough. On my way back down the ladder I slipped and fell...talk about pain! Tore my meniscus. Been up since 1am in pain, checked my computer and to my surprise the internet is working...for now anyway. Can't do horse chores so they are standing in a very filthy lean-to and don't know if I can manage to feed today. It will get better...right???

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Posted on Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 - 9:32 am:

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Lameness: Muscle & Tendon Diseases: Muscle & Tendon Diseases not covered above:
Recovery from Superficial Digital Flexor Tendon Tear
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Posted by Chris on Monday, Dec 10, 2007 - 3:54 pm:
Update on Lacoste.
We're finishing up week two of treatment with Game Ready boots. A really cool device that provides a dry, cold therapy with compression. They have a pretty good web site.
His leg is looking really good; of course it's been wrapped for over 3 weeks. My discharge papers said that I could stop wrapping his leg at 21 days, but after 2 days it started to swell up again, so we're back to wrapping but starting a 12 hour on, then 12 hour off regiment.
He's only getting handwalked for 15 minutes twice a day, but is walking out nicely with good overstride. He's been mostly well behaved, however a week ago, after it had rained, decided that he just had to join in the fun with another horse that was jumping around like a maniac. He was able to get out in front of me; leapt straight up in the air and kicked out with his injured leg catching me in the ribcage. OUCH!!
Well, I've got 3 fractured ribs which don't hurt anywhere near as much as my back since there was no way I was letting go of the lead rope to let him run about! It wasn't intentional and on the up side; he's definitely feeling better.
He gets the tendon injection this Friday and the asst. trainer at our barn is happy to get paid the extra $$ right before the holidays to walk him while I recover. Of course, he's back to being an angel but the gig is up and he doesn't come out of the stall without a chain.

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HorseAdvice.com: Horse Care: Equine Nutrition, Horse Feeds, Feeding: Pica: Horses Eating Inappropriate Materials:
Horse ate Hall's Cough Drop bag and maybe, egads, a riding glove....
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Posted by mmt on Monday, Dec 10, 2007 - 8:10 pm:
It's that time of year when the lack of grass makes the horses overly curious about everything else in their surroundings. I have a little mounting block / grooming box that has lived in my run in shed for five years. During that time, the horses have kicked it about from time to time but never managed to open it.
Well, today they did.... Inside were, among other things, a bag of Halls Cough Drops, and miscellaneous riding gloves.
What is certain is that one horse, at least, ate the bag of Halls Cough Drops. There were only six or seven cough drops left, and the paper wrappers probably are no problem, but that plastic bag they come in is quite stiff and doesn't seem very digestive tract friendly.
I don't know exactly how many gloves I had in there so I can't say with certainty whether they ate any, I only worry about the possibility because my horse once pulled one from my back pocket and very nearly swallowed it before I got it out of his mouth....
Anyway, I read some of the other posts about the horse swallowing stuff (the Rolex watch!!) and gather there's not much to do but keep an eye on them and perhaps feed extra hay? but wanted clarification if anyone has it, about how long I should be watching for signs? what is the most critical period?
The incident occurred this afternoon (5 or 6 hours ago) and so far they are both eating normally and seem fine....
thanks for any thoughts....
Michèle

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HorseAdvice.com: Horse Care: Equine Nutrition, Horse Feeds, Feeding: Fat or Obese Horse Nutrition:
Pony won't stop eating!
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Posted by Melissa Baker on Tuesday, Dec 11, 2007 - 9:42 am:
So I've moved into my new farm in NC last week. My horses are so happy. I turn them out all day and they are in at night. My horse Moose grazes for a while, naps, walks around and then starts all over, my pony Sweetheart on the other hand never lifts her head all day. This was never a concern in FL because they weren't in lush pastures and our grass there had no nutrition. Here my pastures are fairly lush still and it is fescue and orchard grass. I have 2 questions:
1. Is it to much for her to eat 10 hours straight? (she's already a little chubby)
2. Do I still have to give her hay when she's in at night? (right now I give her one flake of T&A)

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Skin Diseases, Wounds, and Swellings: Bumps / Nodules / Warts / Tumors: Hives, Wheals, and Urticaria in Horses:
Hive tests
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Posted by Ann on Tuesday, Dec 11, 2007 - 10:28 am:
Dr. O. I have a mare that has hives on and off for a few years.. .. We noticed they started in the spring time her first good sweaty work out.. then would go away.. now as a 6 year old the hives are coming and staying.. .. This winter is the first time I have noticed her to have them this time of year.. I plan on showing her this summer and need to get this under control and using some of the cures I can't show with in her system.. I was told by my barn vet to take her to a equine dermatologist for testing.. ! After the testing she will present to me shots to be given to my mare .. I have talked to others that have done this and their horses are doing fine now.. Exactly what does a dermatologist do ? And what do the shots do.. ? You don't write about this course of action in your above article..
** nothing has changed in her daily enviroment,feed etc..**
thanks as ALWAYS..
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Respiratory System: Noises and Decreased Performane in Exercising Horses: Roarers:
Tie back & laser surgery
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Posted by Nicole Gossage on Tuesday, Dec 11, 2007 - 12:32 pm:
Afternoon. Hope everyone's staying warm & dry today. I’m taking my horse, Bobcat, to an equine hospital tomorrow. They’re going to scope him when we get there to determine his grade of roaring. (If I had to guess, I’d say he’s a III or IV, since he sounds like a Mac truck/freight train). He made a little noise when I bought him, but it wasn’t bad. A few years later, he’s in the best shape of his life, and the noise is worse. He’s had a few moments where he can’t breathe at all. This happens when he’s stressed/upset (working on the one lead change that’s hard for him). Initially, the surgeon & I discussed just performing the laser surgery, which they’ve found helps better with the noise, but when I told him about the difficulty getting air in the stressed moments, he thinks we may be looking at doing both the traditional tie-back, followed by the laser the next day.
So the initial plan is we’ll get him scoped tomorrow, tie back on Thursday, and laser on Friday. I can pick him up on Saturday morning. Dr. O, the surgeon said that even though they have no studies to prove it, they’re seeing more success with the tie-back followed up with the laser procedure. Does he mean there’s less chance of infection because the laser cauterizes/seals things up? (My insurance which doesn’t cover any of this, also said they’re seeing a lot of the combo procedure).
Wish me safe driving (2.5 hours) and a successful surgery & recovery for Bobcat. I’m a little nervous, even though I know it’s a routinely done surgery, it’s surgery on my big boy.
Nicole

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Posted on Tuesday, Dec 11, 2007 - 8:21 am:

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Urinary System: Penile Prolapse in Horses:
Enlarged testicles of a six month old foal
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Posted by shawna williams on Saturday, Dec 8, 2007 - 1:59 pm:
We have a six month old foal and his testicles have dropped and are engorged. Of course, it's the weekend and we can't get a hold of the vet. A friend is coming over to look and see if there is a bean. What else could be the cause? We have only had horses for a year and a half, so I'm not very experienced with them. I don't think it is penile prolapse but I'm going out to have another look at him after I type this to compare with the picture in this section. Thanks

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HorseAdvice.com: Horse Care: Hoof Care, Hoof Trimming, Shoeing Horses : Hoof Care Topics Not Covered Above:
Shoes were too tight= Severe toe bruises
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Posted by Nicole Rainier on Sunday, Dec 9, 2007 - 2:39 pm:
My gelding had a nine month show season this year. In November, we decided we would turn him out for a few hours a day and let him be more of a horse for a while. When he was three, he fell and tore both front suspensory ligaments along with other injuries. We have had to be really careful with him (he also acts like an idiot when turned out). He is six now and has been sound for a while, so we decided that getting out and running probably wouldn't hurt him. Well, he was wearing aluminum shoes, and he somehow broke the l.f. one (no idea) and was very lame. Our farrier came out an put steel shoes with clips on, because he has a tendency to get shoes off anyway. He was fine for a while, then he became really lame. Our vet came out and pulled the shoes. He said that the shoes had been put on way too tight. Visually, there were bright red bruises on the white line area of his toe on the underside of both of his feet. Unfortunately, our farrier had to go in and have his hip replaced. We were told to leave shoes off as long as possible anyway. He was extremely sore barefoot, so we bought him a pair of Easy Boots which have been a godsend.We soaked his feet in Epsom salts and made poultices. He did improve with bute. A substitute farrier who knows my vet came and glued shoes on him about two weeks after the steel shoes were pulled. He was fine for a day but then went pretty lame again, even when we put the Easy boots on over the shoes. Well, he somehow got one shoe off in his stall, and then the other one a few days later, and he actually looks much better, but is still off w/out the boots. We have been trying to get in touch with the farrier to no avail. We have been applying the green epsom salts gel w/ diapers and I cannot tell if it is helping or not. Overall, he is getting better and is on no bute, but he still isn't good without the boots. I am actually starting to see some bruising coming up at his heel area on the rt. foot.How long should it take these bruises to heal? Is it possible for him to have an abcess somewhere? Does the green gel really help? How long does it usually take before they can be shod? Are Rim pads a good move? He has already missed so much of his career due to injury, and I really wanted this to be a fun winter for him before next year. Thanks to any who reply

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Colic, Diarrhea, GI Tract: Gastric Ulcers: Gastric Ulcers in Adult Horses:
Question: could endoscopy prep. cause or aggravate ulcers?
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Posted by Elizabeth Kaufman on Sunday, Dec 9, 2007 - 8:57 pm:
So I have a question about EGUS diagnostics. The context is that my current competition horse (a moderately hot Holsteiner mare) has seemed a little "off" to me. She is sound, eating, and bloodwork is unremarkable (except a slightly below normal platelet count). No clinical symptoms except that she is crabbier, less interested in her food, and generally less happy and more resistant than normal. Her general condition is very good, so this is all behavioral stuff.
Of course EGUS seems like a likely issue, but I am resistant to an endoscopy: won't the 24hrs off food and 12hrs w/o water required in advance of the procedure either cause ulcers or aggravate existing ones? Can they tell the difference? Isn't this just torture for a horse I already suspect to be uncomfortable?
I plan to treat her w/o an endoscopy, and watch for any improvement, but it would be nice to have a more humane diagnostic....

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Cardiovascular, Blood, and Immune System: The Diagnosis of Anemia:
Understanding bloodwork
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Posted by Kami Brooks on Monday, Dec 10, 2007 - 12:34 am:
I'm hoping for help in understanding if this is normal. The horse is a healthy TB in training who has no signs of any real disease and is actually improving in his performance. His only issue is a lump that may be an enlarged lymph or a tumor, but it has reduced to half the size in the month that he's been here. So we're waiting a little while to see if it goes away instead of doing a biopsy.
The blood work was draw 30 min after a 3 furlong work that didn't really test his capacity, but still wasn't a gallop. I'm trying to understand if the values that are out of normal range can be a result of the timing of the test. Normal ranges are in parens. The most concerning is the low platlet count.
WBC 6.11 (5.4 - 14.3) (all under this are in normal range)
RBC 9.96 (6.8 - 12.9) HGB 17.8 (11 - 19) HCT 43.15 (32 - 53) MCV 43 (37 - 59) MCH 17.9 (12.3 - 19.7) MCHC 41.2 (31 - 39) +++high RDWc 21.6
PLT 59 (100 - 400) ---low
The only other out of range readings were GLU 122 (65 - 110) TBI 2.9 (0.5 - 2.3)
Can the platelets be temporarily low because of the work? The vet is not concerned about the bloodwork and thinks it is great. He was scoped after his last race and did not bleed. He races on lasix and I am hoping to wean him off of it. We are decreasing dosage and scoping after races to be safe about it, so that is part of why the concern. I correlate low platelets to 'thin blood'.
If platelets could be low from the timing, then I won't mess with his nutrition program. But if not, then I need to look for what is off.

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Lameness: Muscle & Tendon Diseases: Muscle & Tendon Diseases not covered above:
Recovery from Superficial Digital Flexor Tendon Tear
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Posted by Chris on Monday, Dec 10, 2007 - 3:54 pm:
Update on Lacoste.
We're finishing up week two of treatment with Game Ready boots. A really cool device that provides a dry, cold therapy with compression. They have a pretty good web site.
His leg is looking really good; of course it's been wrapped for over 3 weeks. My discharge papers said that I could stop wrapping his leg at 21 days, but after 2 days it started to swell up again, so we're back to wrapping but starting a 12 hour on, then 12 hour off regiment.
He's only getting handwalked for 15 minutes twice a day, but is walking out nicely with good overstride. He's been mostly well behaved, however a week ago, after it had rained, decided that he just had to join in the fun with another horse that was jumping around like a maniac. He was able to get out in front of me; leapt straight up in the air and kicked out with his injured leg catching me in the ribcage. OUCH!!
Well, I've got 3 fractured ribs which don't hurt anywhere near as much as my back since there was no way I was letting go of the lead rope to let him run about! It wasn't intentional and on the up side; he's definitely feeling better.
He gets the tendon injection this Friday and the asst. trainer at our barn is happy to get paid the extra $$ right before the holidays to walk him while I recover. Of course, he's back to being an angel but the gig is up and he doesn't come out of the stall without a chain.

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HorseAdvice.com: Horse Care: Equine Nutrition, Horse Feeds, Feeding: Pica: Horses Eating Inappropriate Materials:
Horse ate Hall's Cough Drop bag and maybe, egads, a riding glove....
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Posted by mmt on Monday, Dec 10, 2007 - 8:10 pm:
It's that time of year when the lack of grass makes the horses overly curious about everything else in their surroundings. I have a little mounting block / grooming box that has lived in my run in shed for five years. During that time, the horses have kicked it about from time to time but never managed to open it.
Well, today they did.... Inside were, among other things, a bag of Halls Cough Drops, and miscellaneous riding gloves.
What is certain is that one horse, at least, ate the bag of Halls Cough Drops. There were only six or seven cough drops left, and the paper wrappers probably are no problem, but that plastic bag they come in is quite stiff and doesn't seem very digestive tract friendly.
I don't know exactly how many gloves I had in there so I can't say with certainty whether they ate any, I only worry about the possibility because my horse once pulled one from my back pocket and very nearly swallowed it before I got it out of his mouth....
Anyway, I read some of the other posts about the horse swallowing stuff (the Rolex watch!!) and gather there's not much to do but keep an eye on them and perhaps feed extra hay? but wanted clarification if anyone has it, about how long I should be watching for signs? what is the most critical period?
The incident occurred this afternoon (5 or 6 hours ago) and so far they are both eating normally and seem fine....
thanks for any thoughts....
Michèle

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Posted on Monday, Dec 10, 2007 - 8:09 am:

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HorseAdvice.com: Horse Care: Hoof Care, Hoof Trimming, Shoeing Horses : Care of the Hoof: an Overview :
Snow and wet hooves
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Posted by Diane E. on Friday, Dec 7, 2007 - 7:53 am:
DrO. I haven't been putting iodine on Hanks soles lately as they seemed to have been getting a little overly dry. His hooves are pretty much in a continual wet state due to the snow. He does go in the lean where it is dry for quite few hours a day. I got some durasole for him which is mostly formalin and iodine, the product states it won't over dry soles. My question is with the wet conditions from the snow would applying something like this cause TOO much wetting and drying? I would like to continue to try to get his soles harder somehow, maybe it isn't possible in this enviroment?

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Lameness: Lameness topics not covered above:
Where to start? Parking out, on/off lame, etc.
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Posted by Pinehurst on Friday, Dec 7, 2007 - 11:32 am:
OK! I don't know if any of this relates to each other, but I'll go ahead and list all the oddities of my critter:
We had him (KWPN 8 yr old gelding) come to us who was lame. He was formerly doing 3' on the A circuit; came up lame & they gave him a year of light work. He came to us showing lame only when going to the right. The tighter the circle, obviously, the more siginificant the lameness showed. X rays were clean. Extended time off & starting back to training slowly seemed to fix it...after a few months back into jumping, came up mildly lame again. Never any heat or swelling; we're thinking along the lines of deep digital flexor injury or something?? Under saddle seems sound now when working in any direction, but if lunged (which we do only to show vet this particular off-ness) will show lameness when going to the right only.

Will occasionally (not often) swap out behind (feels almost like loses his back end underneath him) to a degree both ways, but more often when going to the LEFT at the canter. Typically when asking for collection.
Flaw under saddle is getting on the forehand and strong. Never runaway type strong, just I can't hear you asking me to brake strong. Has a heart of gold and a great work ethic. LOVES to work, loves a challenge...very honest & always tries to please. Seems a little ADD in that you always need to keep him occupied or he'll pay attention to everything else going on. Gets anxious at the shows & very strong...never bad or misbehavior, just heavy and headstrong.

He has ALWAYS pawed on the crossties, at dinner time, etc., but is one who loves people, loves attention, loves treats, etc...could very well be a learned habit for attention?
After a workout he will often stand parked out behind. Sheath is clean, no bean, no issues with urination. No palpable soreness along his spine from what we can see; we had the chiropractor come out today to give him an adjustment to see if that will help.
Has a shiny coat, healthy appetite, is out on pasture 8 hours a day and in stall with hay overnight. We have great show vets that have sort of scratched their head at him. MRI is an option for looking further into the intermittent lameness...but is it worth the expense for a MILD lameness that only shows itself once in a blue moon or when being lunged?

Ideas?? Ulcers? Tendon injury? Hocks?? Anything that comes to mind hearing these things??

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Horse thieves in Houston area...Help needed
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Posted by Judy Henslee on Friday, Dec 7, 2007 - 11:55 am:
A family recently had an Andalusian gelding (with microchip and brand) and an Azteca mare stolen in the Houston Texas area. Someone cut the chain on their fence and took them two nights ago, or yesterday morning. To add insult to injury, their new trailer was also stolen...to transport the horses. They have reached out to many organizations in the state. CSI, and three law enforcement organizations are involved. They were on tv last night and will be on tv again tonight. One fear is that the perpetrator made it across the Mexican border or is already in another state. Tx. A & M's agricultural extension staff are involved. netposse is involved. The family is totally devastated. Thoughts and prayers are appreciated. Any ideas on finding these horses on a nationwide level? I can only imagine the pain the owners are going through. They have sent pictures with flyers on both horses. I don't know how to get the pictures out of the flyers and into this site for you. Perhaps I could email the owner and ask for small jpeg files. Posting at feed stores, etc., throughout the country might help. Its been over 24 hours now. The horses might be anywhere....Again, your help is appreciated! Judy http://www.ranchodellago.net/

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Lameness: Lameness topics not covered above:
NQR to lame to NQR and so on...
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Posted by Jill Marks on Saturday, Dec 8, 2007 - 11:36 am:
17 H, 17 year old grade Percheron gelding in light work (though usually ridden and or lunged 4 -5 times a week -- just not hard work). 2 1/2 weeks ago -- noticed that I kept picking up the wrong diagonal on the right rein.
A day or two later, he seemed very stiff in the shoulders and short strided up front when lunged on a circle to the right. Then very slight head bob started to appear intermittently. Same pattern when lunged over the next few days -- so basically just at the edge of being not quite right and almost lame.

Barn owner lunged him for me and said he trotted out fine. Next day I lunged him and it was a head bobbing day. Seemed ouchy on the right fore. Started just hand walking, large around the arena. Had the chiropractor out and she found he needed a bit of adjustment in his right shoulder and right hind. But she didn't feel it was necessarily the cause of the problem and could just have been a reaction to some pain/discomfort elsewhere. He has had problem with his back end before (sacrum) manifesting itself in stumbling. This is now under control. We began to think he might be working on an abscess. Next day, still NQR. Day after he had a trim and farrier (BO's husband) checked for ouchiness. Nothing. There is no heat and there are no lumps nor swelling anywhere on his legs. No pulse nor excessive heat in his hooves. He does not seem to be in a major amount of discomfort but he can be quite stoic.

Three days ago he looked quite lame. Still no heat, no lumps, no swelling -- and still quite a cheerful horse. The next day, he was worse and did not look quite so cheerful. Last night he looked better. Still lame but not quite as severe and moved off in a jog more willingly. BO has suggested we see how he does over the weekend before calling in the vet unless he suddenly worsens. It is possible he may have pulled something -- it was a bit slippery a couple of weeks ago. The only other change in his routine is he is wearing a turnout sheet which he hasn't worn in the past. It is designed to fit a draft horse so it shouldn't be causing a problem. I had posted this question on a local equine bulletin board. Some people agreed that it could be a stubborn abscess, others felt it might be soft tissue like a groin pull or a check ligament. Other people have suggested arthritic or navicular changes. Their feeling is that these changes can present themselves suddenly. My feeling is that generally these sort of problems don't appear without some sort of early signs. He is my only horse, so I am very sensitive to his movement and actually before this started I felt he was going the best I'd felt since I got him two years ago. I am puzzled by the onset of this. To me it seems too rapid to be arthritis etc. but too slow to indicate an acute injury

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Pathetic pawing
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Posted by Diane E. on Sunday, Dec 9, 2007 - 12:10 pm:
WHY DON"T YOU JUST GIVE US SOME HAY MOM !!

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Lameness: Muscle & Tendon Diseases: Tendon Laxity and Contracture:
Contracted tendons on the weanlings
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Posted by Julie Masner on Sunday, Dec 9, 2007 - 1:39 pm:
Well, now for this week's weanling question: I transitioned three weanlings to alfalfa grass mix hay and started them on Purina Born to Win pellets doing it what I thought was gradually. Also started a worming program that I think followed the protocol in the articles. And now after reading about tendon contractual problems, I think I probably set them up for same! They grew like weeds for six weeks and then within a 24 hour period, two of the three started knuckling over on the rear fetlocks. Not lame, just really knuckling over. I read the articles and immediately switched to mature grass hay, eliminated the pellets (which are 32% protein!!!) and left them turned out. Within four days, they appear almost normal. Now the question is do I gradually start them back on the better hay, and do I add pellets at all and if so, when and how slowly. Obviously, I didn't do it slowly enough the first time! Thanks and I hope that's it for questions for this month, but it is early! Julie

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HorseAdvice.com: Diseases of Horses: Colic, Diarrhea, GI Tract: Mouth, Esophagus, and Liver: Disorders of the Mouth and Teeth:
Chipped front tooth
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Posted by marie anne on Sunday, Dec 9, 2007 - 4:49 pm:
My horse was mouthing a gate, pulled back, and chipped a front tooth. It bled a little for about 10 minutes, then stopped. He didn't act like it was sensitive. i didn't find anything in the articles addressing this-how should this be treated?

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