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Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 367
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, Feb 8, 2007 - 8:37 pm: |   |
I am interested in this breed for dressage.
I have heard them described as a large Arab( I mean this in the most positive way)
I am wondering if someone has had personal experience with this breed and could tell me about them
Thank you. |
Stacy Upshaw
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Username: 36541
Post Number: 251
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, Feb 8, 2007 - 10:04 pm: | |
You can see my homebred on my profile Lori. I own four that I bred myself, they all ended up larger than I needed! They are lighter of mind than most warmbloods, some lines have more Arab inclinations than others. You can enjoy some fabulous pictures at www.valhallatrakehner.com, and I will be happy to talk your ear off about mine if you'd like. I evented two of mine, am doing Second Level now with the gelding in the profile pic. If you saw the thread "recovery if enucleation", the mare in the jumping pics is a Trakehner as well. |
jos
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Username: paardex
Post Number: 172
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, Feb 9, 2007 - 6:17 am: | |
I have owned 2 Trakehners and most of the other warmbloods had Trakehner blood somewhere [the gelding in my profile twice inbred to a Trakehner mare and it shows in his head inside and outside]
The first Trakehner was bred with the use of a lot of TB[uncommon in this race] and was a magnificent dressage horse but was of a very nervous disposition[quite uncommon for a Trakehner imo]
The second one looked and behaved like a very big Welsh pony such a sweet beautiful horse a real companion good for dressage and showjumping equally.
That said for real high level dressage you will have to search for a Trakehner with enough lifting of the foreleg, in europe there are a lot of Trakehners with a bit of a flat way of trotting[sorry if I explain this awkwardly: a language thing!]
This race is imo also very good for crosses as the Trakehner from time to time is very expensive[again European circumstances]
Hope this helped
Jos |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 370
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, Feb 9, 2007 - 9:19 am: | |
Stacy, what do you mean by 'light of mind'? Like an Arab?
Do they have 'good bone'?
It is my understanding, correct me if I am wrong, that there is a lot of Arab in the development of the breed. Do they have the stamina of the Arab?
I am just connecting to your site.
I think there are enough horses without adding another one.
Thanks Jos.
So, the mare I am thinking of breeding is a TB/Holsteiner cross, there should be enough shoulder action in her to compensate if the stallion is lacking in that area.
Do you have pics of any of yours?
Again thanks |
Stacy Upshaw
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Username: 36541
Post Number: 252
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, Feb 9, 2007 - 11:52 am: | |
Hmmm, the term just came out when I was typing. What I have experienced is a quickness and intelligence a little more intense than with the other warmbloods I've ridden. More playful, sometimes more devious, occasionally flighty but always with a smugness about them. My first horses were Arabs, rode them all the way to Pony Club Nationals as a teen, so my comments are given with love. I wouldn't want my horses to be too dull or business-like, because its the interaction that gives me what I need. At www.americantrakehner.com you should be able to find a sizable farm close to you where you can meet some Traks, also you may want to search for info about Windfall and his rider who events Trakehners at the International level. All my Trakehners have good bone, I am a stickler for conformation so had my broodmares inspected before making progeny. Both my broodmares are going strong at 17 and 18, both have tremendous heart and endurance. As I said before, you'll have to tell me when to stop bragging about this breed! Jean Brinkman at Valhalla is the most dedicated breeder I've ever encountered, always very concerned about rider-horse compatibility, trainability of the bloodline, and soundness. My two youngest Traks(9 and 3) are full sibs by Hailo. |
Wiley Gillmor
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Username: wgillmor
Post Number: 50
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Friday, Feb 9, 2007 - 12:07 pm: | |
Lori,
From the genetic point of view, you might find this interesting (if you haven't found it already):
http://americantrakehner.com/The%20Breed/TBInfluence.htm
At the ranch where I board we have three Trahkaners, one owned by me. Mine looks like an Arab on steroids and has the personality of a Golden Retriever. Another looks like a large TB and has a spirit to match. The third looks like a small TB and while not as spirited as the second is definitely ahead of the leg. All are sound most of the time, but one has some ringbone. All are used for dressage, but we are not an upper level barn.
Wiley |
Cyndy
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Username: hpyhaulr
Post Number: 100
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Friday, Feb 9, 2007 - 1:22 pm: | |
Stacy,
I suspect that no matter what, you will be singing praises. And for good reason. We have hauled a number of horses out of Valhalla, the facility Stacy is referencing, and have never come across a client who was anything short of impressed to the point of elation. We have transported almost every one of them cross country (Fl-->Ca)and are repeatedly taken with their conformation and stunning personality as well as organized preparation for the trip. See, we know the song too! And Jean doesn't hire us, so there is no hidden agenda here. |
jos
Member
Username: paardex
Post Number: 174
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, Feb 10, 2007 - 7:43 am: | |
Lori, if you meant do I have pictures of my Trakehners I do but old ones not in the computer. The picture in my profile is a Holsteiner with a little bit of Trakehner and your cross TB x Holsteiner mixed with Trakehner could very well resemble this gelding depending on how much blood is in the Holsteiner[which lines?]
A good Trakehner has very good bones and stamina too.
My second one came directly from one of the famous mares who walked to Poland during the horrible flight of nearly all Trakehners [second world war]That winter this race proved its hardiness and stamina and character as most mares where in foal, carried or pulled loads, ate nearly nothing but the things they found underway and still almost all reached safety and foaled next spring as if nothing had happened.
Over here[but this can be entirely different in the US due to different stallions and lines]freedom of movement in the shoulder area is never a problem but sometimes they should lift the leg a bit more in the knee of the fore leg[? difficult to translate]
Jos |
