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Julie Masner
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Post Number: 153
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 31, 2007 - 12:40 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I just picked up a yearling quarter horse filly that is about 5 inches higher at the top of her hip than the withers. She's got a lot of issues from benign neglect, but has been on pretty good hay. Her conformation isn't bad, but I wonder if that much difference at a year can possible even out? Any encouragement or did I just let my heart override my head? I know you'd like pictures, and I will try to post, buy she's pretty pathetic looking right now--rough coat and a bad case of warts! Thanks, Julie
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Imogen Bertin
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 31, 2007 - 3:34 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'd consider up to 2-3 inches difference not abnormal in a young horse and might even out but 5? - I don't know what others think?

Imogen
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Sara Wolff
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 31, 2007 - 10:28 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Imo this could be normal. Do you know how tall his parents are or if his bloodlines produce tall horses? Is he appendex QH? I think with proper nutrition and getting rid of his other problems, he'll even out. I'd be sure he's getting the right ratios in his feed as far as minerals and vitamins go.
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Julie Masner
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 31, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

She is registered,but I know nothing about her parents--the people I got her from picked her up at a "going out of business" type situation. She was bred to just be used on their cattle ranch. I may be exagerating about the five inches, but it's more than two or three I think--I don't have a "stick". I'll be transitioning her slowly to pasture and a vitamin mineral supplement. Plan to worm with Ivermectin today and perhaps start her on daily wormer. She's not really much underweight, but has some skin issues that make me think she isn't strong immune wise. And her feet! That's another story! As you may have picked up from other posts, I'm a bit of a "hoof Nazi" and I cringe when I look at hers. She's had no handling, so since Thursday when I got her we've been working on letting me pick them up. Holding them is a different story. Sadly, the halter rubs on the warts, so everything is a bit touchy. What she has going for her is her color--a buckskin colored dun--dorsal stripe, leg and wither baring, and possibly some barbs on her neck and spider webbing on her face. Too cute--even the top half of her ears on the backside are black. She's the color of coffee with cream, so we're considering for names: Java, Mocha, Latte or Starbux. What do you think? Well, the reason for the long post--any more suggestions on getting this girl healthy and comfortable?
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Angie J.
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 31, 2007 - 1:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Julie,

I don't know the answer to your question on the height, but wanted to comment as her condition seems to be the same as Gem's was when we got her as a yearling. I just wanted to say be careful on the worming...I don't think you should do a full dose as it may overwhelm her system at this point. Just curious, on that health scale, where do you think she is?

I found and joined HA searching for how to care for our neglected filly. She will be 5 next week and looks great! And she's a buckskin too.
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Julie Masner
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 31, 2007 - 6:29 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Angie, She has a rough coat that isn't shedding like the rest of the horses in the area, a bad case of warts and rain rot under her mane (which is puzzling as we've hardly had any moisture since January). She seems alert and not depressed and isn't underweight. But you're suggestion is a good one and I will try to find out if she has been wormed since the second owner had her. But I think it's prudent to maybe do a half dose and then follow it up. Do you know how long to wait before the second dose? I bet Dr. O has an article! Thanks, Julie
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Alden Chamberlain
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 31, 2007 - 11:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Julie,

I've had good results training horses to allow their feet handled using just a round pen. The trick is to allow them to stand still if they will, but as soon as they resist handling of the feet I move them out. I don't work them a lot or real hard between tries but I keep them on my agenda.

It is surprising how quick most will relinquish their feet to get to stand still. No ropes involved so after they understand I can go into the pasture and clean feet with out halters :-)

Good day,
Alden
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Julie Masner
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 1, 2007 - 12:07 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Alden, I think that would be a great idea, since the warts are painful and almost impossible to avoid with a halter on. I certainly don't want to make any associations with pain and having her feet handled! My farrier absolutely won't work on a horse that's not compliant and I can't blame him. The work is hard enough and dangerous enough with a cooperative horse! I'm anxious to get some work done--they are in horrible shape--standing in a small pen since November--not much activity and lots of manure and urine. I think your suggestion will work well with her as she seems to have a lot of "try" for one with so little handling. Thanks again, Julie
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 1, 2007 - 9:07 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Julie,
Yes on the article on deworming heavy infestations and warts see
Horse Care » Worms, Deworming, Parasite Control » Deworming Schedules
and
Diseases of Horses » Skin Diseases, Wounds, and Swellings » Bumps / Nodules / Warts / Tumors » Overview of Bumps, Nodules, Warts & Tumors.

Wow 5 inches difference, have your sticked this or are you approximating? I don't know if it is possible this might even out but it does sound like we will find out. Would you take a picture and if possible document the difference with a height stick.
DrO
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Erika L
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 1, 2007 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Julie, again, I don't know how many inches the difference was, but my neighbors had a very well bred and expensive filly from cutting lines that looked extremely downhill to me at about a year old. Maybe they like 'em low in front for cutting?

Alden, good to see you back. Hadn't seen any posts from you lately and I was thinking about you.
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Julie Masner
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 1, 2007 - 12:30 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Five inches may be hyperbole--I'll try to borrow a stick and measure. In the meantime, here's a photo taken before I bought her. Downhill Yearling
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Lea-Anne Lesch
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 1, 2007 - 1:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

She is very downhill. Don't know much about yearlings but she is very cute, I hope you enjoy her.
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Sara Wolff
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 1, 2007 - 6:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

She is cute! I think she'll even out a lot if not totally.
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Alden Chamberlain
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 1, 2007 - 8:30 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Good looking mare, I have a Dun with ear stripes also but she has frosted mane and tail.

One of my Fox Trotters looked about that bad and he straightened right up. Uh, but he ended up 17.1h also

Good day,
Alden
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Julie Masner
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 1, 2007 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Sara and Alden--but Alden--17.1??? I'm just over 5 feet! I'd love to hear from anyone else that had a yearling this unbalanced. I've had three yearlings in the last five years and none were this out of balance. I just couldn't leave her standing in that little pen, so I guess I turned a blind eye to little things like conformation! Thanks all! Julie
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Gwen Robison
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Posted on Monday, Apr 2, 2007 - 8:08 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Julie, she is adorable. Kudos for saving her. I don't know much at all about babies, but I thought that being but high was a normal process of growth. Being a yearling, it seems as though she has plenty of time to even out! She is super cute. Almost as cute as "tux".
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Angie J.
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Posted on Monday, Apr 2, 2007 - 8:46 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I can see why you bought her! Very sweet looking.

My 18 year old Arab mare was built like that when I got her as a 2 year old. The guy I bought her from said that higher rump meant she was built for speed. Don't know about that but she has those nice lofty Arabish gaits and those hard to stay on flighty moves too. She is still higher in the rear and my only advice is be careful with saddle fit if she stays that way. Mine is still a bugger to fit properly as with age the middle of her back got noticeably lower and it's easy for her to look pot bellied too.

She looks like she has a kind eye and I think you'll enjoy her no matter how she fills out.
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cp
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Posted on Monday, Apr 2, 2007 - 9:47 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

My almost 2-year old looks very much like that growth-wise, almost identical shape actually, and he's a dun too (although a little lighter color). She very cute!
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Amber
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Posted on Monday, Apr 2, 2007 - 1:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Julie, Our Mustard filly, now 5 looked a lot more unbalanced than that, she probably was around a 4-5 inch difference in the rump, it seemed like the as soon as she evened out, her rump all of the sudden got hugely higher, I even thought, oh No!!, but she evened out and is fine today. BTW she is half standard bred and the other half is mustang, hence our calling her a mustard. It was an accidental breed, but worked out fine no less.

She's definitely a cute filly.
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Julie Masner
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Posted on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 11:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Here's my filly, 6 weeks, lots of rice bran and flax seed and Dr. O's worming for horses with unknown history later. Warts and rainrot are gone, her feet are really good, she has responded to training like the foundation quarter horse she is.Latte, 6 weeks later
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Shirley Johnson
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 1:33 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Beautiful home, beautiful horse! Lucky you.

Shirl
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Lilo
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 10:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

She looks great! Lilo
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Aileen
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 12:11 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

She is a pretty thing!!! And what a wonderful environment to grow up in! Kudos to you and congratulations :-)
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Ann
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 4:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Now isn't that something.. She is a beauty..

On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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Sara S
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 11:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Wow, Julie, you've really done great with her. She's quite the looker! She's really started to even out, too. Congratulations!

~Sara
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Shawna
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Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 9:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

She is gorgeous! What a difference 6 weeks makes. Great work!!
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Gwen Robison
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Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

what a cutie.
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Sara M
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Posted on Monday, Aug 17, 2009 - 7:08 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Julie, I was searching for another post of yours and came across this one again. Just curious if this filly evened out?

~Sara
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Julie Masner
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Posted on Monday, Aug 17, 2009 - 9:46 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Sara, yes she did even out. She is three now and I saw her recently at her home--she's very nicely put together and balanced. Got a bit darker, but still has striking black dun factor.
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Sara M
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Posted on Monday, Aug 17, 2009 - 11:09 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Awesome! Glad to hear it.
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Susie in AZ
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Posted on Monday, Aug 17, 2009 - 1:47 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I've had several foundation Quarter Horses that were high-rumped as yearlings and even two year olds. I am curious, what did you do about handling he feet? What name did she end up with?

I like dealing with picking up feet in the round pen too. I don't even need to halter my horse for him to have his feet done! As for a name...

Ima Dun Itchin!
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Julie Masner
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Posted on Monday, Aug 17, 2009 - 2:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

She is foundation QH Susie and is the picture of one now! She had a registered name but I may save Ima Dun Itchin (love it!) 'cause all the young ones seem to itch. Her new owner says she is extra sensitive to bug bites still. Her barn name became Latte. As for the feet, just repeatedly picking up each foot and increasing slowly the time holding it up and then little steps at a time adding holding between knees, rasping, etc. including putting her hoof on the hoof stand she became fine with farrier work. With her, it was a matter of doing each thing for only a second at first and then slowly increasing the time.
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