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leslie christian
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Username: leslie1

Post Number: 439
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Friday, Nov 14, 2008 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi
I need to shampoo Pumpkin for Rain rot(absorbine medicated shampoo and spray), but have no hot water at barn, any advice? Its supposed to get down into the 40's for rest of the week.
I need to disinfect her blankets without removing the waterproofing, and also want to disinfect her wintec girth. I bought some Eqyss Mickro Tek blanket wash, but not sure if it will really disinfect.
Should I just go ahead and body clip her, as I may have to wash her a couple of times a week if its persistent.
Any and all ideas would be appreciated as Ive never dealt with this before. Im concerned about having to bath and lather her with hose water. I dont have access to a hot wash anywhere.
Thanks all,
leslie
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Lora Newman
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 1:30 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I know that dilemma! I don't know how bad the rain rot is on her, but my vet told me to just spot wash my gelding and rinse the spots with a cloth and bucket of warm water from the house. I then towel dry him. His is not bad at this point.
The other option I thought of is to take a trip to south Florida or Cancun and bathe her there. Let me know if you need someone to put sunblock on Pumpkin's nose! I'm in!
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Diane E.
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 6:17 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Leslie when I had a case of rain rot in the winter, I just spot treated it. a light brushing to remove scabs,spray with betadine, applied derma-vet twice daily and it resolved with in a week (don't use blankets so can't help you there). Sprayed brushes with clorox when done. I imagine you could spray the blanket with diluted clorox and rinse.?
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Rachelle E. Morris
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Username: rtrotter

Post Number: 73
Registered: 4-2008
Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 7:49 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Leslie,

Here are 3 suggestions for hot water.
1. Buy a horse hot water heater ( one with a thermostat that turns the heater off when a certain temp is reached).
2. Buy a Hot Wash, this is a small water heater made for Horse barns that connects to the cold water that you already have
3. Bring very hot water from home and use the cold water at the barn to make a bath bucket and a rinse bucket.

Blankets, get a few cans of waterproofing spray, wash and dry your blankets and water proof them after they dry.

I use creolin to disinfect the blankets and also I wash all my brushes in the washing machine too.

After I am done I run another cycle with laundry detergent and bleach to clean the washing machine.

Make sure your horse is clean and dry before you put the blankets back on or the problems will continue.
Rachelle
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: dro

Post Number: 21744
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 8:11 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

This is a often discussed topic at Diseases of Horses » Skin Diseases, Wounds, and Swellings » Hair and Coat Problems / Itching / Irritated Skin » Rain Rot and Rain Scald: Dermatophilus.
DrO
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Fran C
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Username: canter

Post Number: 1742
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 9:13 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

When I need to give a bath in cooler temps that what I would normally like to, I wash the horse in sections. Rather than hose down the whole horse at once, I'll do one leg at a time, wet, shampoo, rinse...then one side of the body, then the other side and save neck and head for last. That way the entire body isn't wet for the entire duration of the cleaning process. I keep plenty of clean towels at hand to get most of the moisture out of each section and throw a wool cooler over the body as soon as possible.

oh, and I've used an automatic coffee maker (without the coffee) to heat up water to take the chill off a bucket of water.
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Erika L
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Post Number: 1446
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 10:30 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Brilliant, Fran!

To keep blankets waterproof you can launder and then spray the exterior with Camp Dry. Get it at Wal-Mart or sporting goods store. It is like Scotch Guard but cheaper.
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leslie christian
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Username: leslie1

Post Number: 441
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 11:20 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Great! Thanks for the help!
Ahhh Crikey! I just found out that it might snow tonight. I think I am going to clip the spots (LOL) and soak with betadine solution and then when weather is more permittable I will bath her as Fran suggests, and do a full body clip after I buy a new heavy turnout rug.
In the meantime she will look like a spotasarus errr spotted-sore-us
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Lori
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Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 1:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

fran the coffee pot is a great idea!
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Angie J.
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Username: ajudson1

Post Number: 2116
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 4:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I've used a coffee pot also in the tack room, and a coffee grinder comes in handy to grind up Bute tabs or other hard pills.

Now all I need is real coffee out there! Come to think of it, I've kept tea out there along with the coffee maker, and have had a cup of tea to warm up. (along with cranking the heater up!)

Our daughter reads in an old wicker chair in the tack room, cats snuggled around her. Guess I could add some hot chocolate to the "stash" lol!

So, Fran, coffee at my barn or yours? Leslie, care to join us??
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Dove2
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Post Number: 319
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 6:58 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Leslie,
My mare had a very bad case of rain rot this past month. I'd never had to battle it before, but here's what I learned: To clear up the bacteria, you basically have to expose it to air/oxygen. My vet recommended a Tuja-Zinc ointment, but I found just softening the scabs with MTG, and then gently scruffing off the scabs is what helped the most. I did preceed the MTG with a spot-specific cleaning with Betadine scrub to help keep the area clean (it was on her pasturn), but the key is to sluff off the scabs. Go gently and slowly as I think it does hurt a bit, but be sure to expose the area to air. That's the best medicine of all.
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leslie christian
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Username: leslie1

Post Number: 443
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Saturday, Nov 15, 2008 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Tee-hee
I'll have a cup of coffee at one's and a spot o' tea at the others...
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Fran C
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Posted on Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 - 8:58 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Come on over!...I'll have the coffee waiting! Oh, and bring your long johns...it's snowing here now (argh)...bet Angie has more than a few inches up her way.
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Angie J.
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Username: ajudson1

Post Number: 2119
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Nope, no snow. Green grass yet. Weird. Some flurries now and then, but nothing on the ground...YET.

Been wearing my silk long johns under my jeans, and built the first fire of this winter last night in the wood stove in the basement. Heats on in the tack room. Just need to get the tank heater put in.
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Lori
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Username: maggienm

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Posted on Sunday, Nov 16, 2008 - 3:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have had great results with MTG also.
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leslie christian
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Username: leslie1

Post Number: 445
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Monday, Nov 17, 2008 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

So, as I treat the rain rot, can I still blanket her? I have washed and waterproofed her blanket. The rain rot has not gone away yet.( its only been a few days of spot treatment.) If I do blanket her will I be reinfecting her?
She is the one I refer to as no-hair mare (she has never grown a nice winter coat.) I already feed hay free choice. Its been below freezing here.;
Thanks
leslie
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Jillian Monk
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Registered: 6-2008
Posted on Monday, Nov 17, 2008 - 5:43 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I've had a lot of luck with the MTG also. It seems to really soften it up.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 18, 2008 - 8:03 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Leslie, I would avoid blanketing until the horse stops forming crusty areas and loosing hair.
DrO
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Shannon Steketee
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, Nov 18, 2008 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Below is a link to a submersible water heater which is a very handy and affordable way to heat water at the barn if you have power. It will bring water to boiling so needs to be watched while in use. I have used these in muck buckets to heat plenty of water for a bath.

http://www.smithbrothers.com/product.asp?pn=X3-4758&sid=nextag&CATALOG_CODE=SX83 2&EID=X3832001&zmam=1460880&zmas=2&zmac=37&zmap=X3-4758&bhcd2=1227041031
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Sara Wolff
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 18, 2008 - 7:30 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Shannon, I have two of these heaters and love them. I use them when the buckets freeze over to defrost them; heat water for washing, etc. I have a large plastic tub I fill, then heat the water to luke warm and use a small bucket of it to wash manes and tails and dip in as need to rinse. I also use Fran's method of washing when it's really cold. I keep a cooler on the horse and lift it up to wash a section then have it drop down over that section while I go to the next section. It's a lot more work than using a hose, but if you don't have a water heater in the barn, it keeps your horses happier...you too when the water runs down your arms!
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