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Member: scooter |
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 6:43 am: Dr.O. I started my horses on the daily de wormer. De-wormed them with Ivermectin Sat. started the daily Sun.A couple questions, since they started the daily de wormer(continuex)they have had(all 3) VERY. VERY loose stools. Does that indicate anything? I have done the daily de wormer before a couple years ago (Strongid 2x) with no loose stools. The reason I am doing a daily, Sam (cushings horse) had a heavy load of strogylyes. The other 2 did not. It is VERY expensive to have 3 horses on a daily de-wormer. Would it make sense to just have Sam on it, or is it defeating the purpose if I don't give it to the other 2? When I do another fecal in a few mos. should I take Sam off the daily first? If his fecal is clear should I still continue the daily since he seems prone to them? Thanks |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 9:20 am: DianeE,What is in the Continuex and what is the concentration and dosage rate? DrO |
Member: scooter |
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 12:10 pm: Here's the info I have, the reason I use it instead of the strongid c2x is price.Continuex Daily Wormer is highly effective against 18 species and stages of parasites. It continuously breaks the parasite life cycle. It is palatable, easy to feed and helps improve feed utilization and overall conditions. It is approved for horses of all ages, including foals, mares and stallions. Ingredients: Active ingredients: Pyrantel tartrate (2.11%). Directions: Recommended daily dose for a 1,000 pound horse is 2 ounces |
Member: scooter |
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 8:37 pm: Dr.O. I found a little more detailed description, I see it says not to feed with bentonite(whatever that is)Thanks Every effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of the information published. However, it remains the responsibility of the readers to familiarize themselves with the product information contained on the US product label or package insert. CONTINUEX® Farnam (pyrantel tartrate) DAILY DEWORMER Medicated for Continuous Feed EQUINE ANTHELMINTIC For the prevention of Strongylus vulgaris larval infections in horses. For Control of the following parasites in horses: LARGE STRONGYLES (adults) - S. vulgaris, S. edentaius, Triodontophorus spp.; SMALL STRONGYLES (adults and fourth stage larvae) - Cyathostomum spp., Cylicocyclus spp., Cylicostephanus spp., Cylicodontophorus spp., Poteriostomum spp.; PINWORMS (adults and fourth stage larvae) - Oxyuris equi; ASCARIDS (adults and fourth stage larvae) - Parascaris equorum ACTIVE DRUG INGREDIENT Pyrantel tartrate 2.11% (9.6 g/lb) GUARANTEED ANALYSIS Crude Protein, not less than 11.5% Crude Fat, not less than 1.5% Crude Fiber, not less than 28.0% INGREDIENTS Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Wheat Middlings, Cane Molasses, Pyrantel Tartrate, Milled Rice Hulls, Calcium Carbonate, Mineral Oil, Sodium Aluminosilicate, and Preserved with Propionic Acid. ANADA 200-282 (SEE BELOW FOR FURTHER USE DIRECTIONS) MIXING AND FEEDING DIRECTIONS Continuex™ (pyrantel tartrate) is to be administered on a continuous basis either as a top-dress or mixed in the horse's daily grain ration at the rate of 1.2 mg pyrantel tartrate per pound of body weight daily. To achieve this dose administer 0.5 oz. of Continuex per 250 lb. of body weight. (A Continuex measuring cup is enclosed.) Continuex should be administered for the entire period that the animal is at risk to internal parasites. Unprotected animals that have grazed may have already established S. vulgaris larval infection. Before administering Continuex, these animals should be treated with a therapeutic dose of a larvicidal product. Foals may be administered Continuex as soon as consistent intake of grain mix is occurring. This is generally between two to three months of age. Continuex may be used in mares at any stage of pregnancy of lactation. Stallion fertility is not affected by the use of Continuex. TOP-DRESS DIRECTIONS LB BODY WEIGHT OUNCES PER DAY OF CONTINUEX 250 0.5 500 1.0 750 1.5 1000 2.0 1250 2.5 (Measuring Cup Enclosed) MEDICATED GRAIN MIX DIRECTIONS LB OF MEDICATED GRAIN MIX PER 100 LB OF BODY WEIGHT LB OF CONTINUEX LB OF NON-MEDICATED FEED CONCENTRATION GRAMS PER TON 2.0 12.5 1987.5 120 1.5 16.5 1983.5 160 1.0 25.0 1975 240 0.5 50.0 1950 480 0.2 125.0 1875 1200 CAUTION: Consult your veterinarian before using in severely debilitated animals and for assistance in the diagnosis, treatment and control of parasitism. Do not mix in feeds containing bentonite. WARNING: Do not use in horses intended for food. Store at controlled room temperature 15-30°C (59-86°F) Distributed by: Farnam Companies, Inc., Phoenix, AZ 85013 ©1998, 2002 Farnam Companies, Inc. NET WEIGHT Product Code: 10 LB (4.54 kg) 9FF8 25 LB (11.34 kg) 9DD8 50 LB (22.68 kg) 3002545 03-0832 NAC No.: 10000502 |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 7:44 am: Looks like a pretty standard pyrantel daily preventive. What was the worm burden on the other two or were they negative? What has your past deworming program been like?DrO |
Member: scooter |
Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 8:01 am: Dr.O. they were negative. I usually de-worm with an ivermectin based paste every 2 mos. With either a double dose of Strongid OR ivermectin+praziquental 2 yearly.This happened about 3 years ago also (to Sam) All the horses went on Strongid2x and he has been negative up to this year. I TRY to keep pastures fairly clean (fall, spring,summer, but in the winter I'm kind of bad about cleaning pastures. Their paddock where they are USUALLY fed hay is cleaned daily regardless of the season. I wonder if the Cushings just makes him more prone to infection? The other 2 always have clean fecals. That's why I wonder if it is necessary to keep them on it. I was thinking about leaving the other 2 on it for a few mos. and if Sam has a neg fecal take them off it and leave him on it...would that work??? |
Member: anniel |
Posted on Sunday, Aug 9, 2009 - 8:23 pm: Hi all, this is a continuation of issue for my mare Penny, who has had chronic diarrhea/pudding stools for almost two years, and not sure how long before I purchased her thatnthis was going on.When I first got her (Dec 07) I did a power pack on her as well as my other horse and fit her into my regular worming schedule of paste worming 4xyear in rotation. Her stools improved but never what I would call average/normal looking or consistancy. Asked my vet about it, but the subject was brushed aside. Through this spring and summer her stools became looser to the point of constant diarrhea. I joined horseadvice in July with questions and guidance related to ulcers and treatment as Pen is in excellent weight/condition so never really considered worms as the problem. Two weeks after having her on ranitidine with no change I took a fecal to my small animal vet a mile from my house. Large animal vet is two hours away so never had them run a float. The test showed lg numbers of small strongyles so wormed Pen with Quest on Aug 4. Finally to my question... Should I consider, and would it be a good idea to put Penny and my other horse on a daily wormer? Five years ago I put my gelding on continuex. He was on it almost two years. I have limited pasture that I rake or clean the bathroom areas on a regular basis. The run in stall is cleaned at least 2x a day with fresh bedding added. What more can one do for their beloved horses? Annie |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Tuesday, Aug 11, 2009 - 5:16 am: Hello Diane,I see I missed a question in May. Many have conjecured that Cushings horse are more susceptible to parasitism. And if the routine you propose gives you negative fecals then it is working. As to a routine I recommend you follow the suggestions in the article on Schedules. Hello Annie, Could you post this with your already existing discussion? Besides preventing possible confusion, having your horse's complete history might make any answer to your question more accurate. Alternatively you could start a new discussion here. For more on the pros and cons of daily pyrantel deworming products check out, Treatments and Medications for Horses » Dewormers (Anthelminics) » Pyrantel (Strongid, Rotectin 2, etc). DrO |