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Sherri L. Hueser
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Username: Tangoh

Post Number: 476
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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 4:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

It's almost June, and though it's been a cool, wet spring, most horses are completely shed out. Four of our five horses are shiny and sleek. The fifth horse, a 3 year old tennessee walking horse gelding, is still rather hairy, although he is shedding. He is also quite thin but considering his height (15.3) and age I'm not as concerned about this. His ribs aren't visible.

I spoke to a vet here who suggested of course, a fecal analysis. He said that worms is rarely ever the reason for a poor coat (in this area anyway). I was going to 2X Strongid P, but again, he said in this area, tape worms are virtually non existent.

He recommened a fecal sample be taken, and not to bother with the Strongid, but just use ivermectin.

Any comments?
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Susan Bilsky
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Post Number: 389
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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Sherri,
Is this the new guy and where did he come from?
Perhaps you are just seeing evidence of a diet over the winter time that is now ready to shed out although a little slowly.

My vet has also said the same thing about tape worms. Won't be evident on a fecal test, but perhaps on a necropsy.

You could do a fecal, but that would involve you or somebody hanging around waiting for Mr. Horse to poo and then rushing it down to the lab when it is open. Been there and done that and I had a big Ziploc baggie on hand with latex gloves so as not to contaminate anything.

Fecal analysis is not expensive, but might give some indication as to what this guy needs.

Hope this helps.

Susan B.
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LL
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Post Number: 112
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Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 4:56 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Sherri

Is it possible that this vet just isn't aware that tapeworm is much more common in horses than was previously thought? He may well not have come across evidence of them in fecal analyses, but that doesn't mean they're not there.

If I were in your place, I would worm with Equimax (ivermectin + praziquantel) just to be on the safe side. What's to lose?

Lynn
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 9:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

We recommend our deworming program, see "Overview" and "Schedules" for more.
DrO
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Sherri L. Hueser
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Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:56 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Susan,

Yes, it's the new guy, he came from Laurindale Stables in Camrose, AB. They feed the same hay we do. We've finally got them on grass, working them up gradually. Started them at 1 hour a day and now are up to about 3 - 4 hours a day. We bring them in to a large 'CLEAN' dirt paddock every night.

I asked the previous owner about their deworming schedule, this is what she said...

I usually deworm them, one whole tube then ten days later do a second one. Generally we deworm every 3 months, if they are in very small pens, then every two. I mix up the dewormers, using equvalan, strongid and safeguard. I make sure I use equvalan in the fall to get the bots

I do my young ones every two months, strongid for the first two or three times then equvalan
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Susan Bilsky
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Post Number: 391
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Posted on Wednesday, Jun 1, 2005 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Sherri,
There may be just enough difference in the climate, from where he came from to where he is now to make this late shedding possible.

I am not sure I understand his previous owners' deworming practise. "I mix up the dewormers, using equvalan, strongid and safeguard. I make sure I use equvalan in the fall to get the bots"

Does she mean she mixes them altogether or this is how she rotates the wormers every 3 months?

I am sure your pastures and paddocks are "Sparkling" clean .

Is he due to be dewormed now with the rest of the herd?

Susan
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Sherri L. Hueser
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Posted on Wednesday, Jun 1, 2005 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Susan,
That WOULD be an interesting concoction!

No she means that she rotates through these.

I have to admit, our paddocks are ridiculously clean right now. We just had them cleaned, right down to the dirt, now that they're out to pasture we have seeded two of the larger 'dirt' paddocks to grass and will now just have one large dirt corral for winter and for arena work.

He was dewormed with ivermectin last night actually. He seems to love the stuff, I actually had to get him to let go of the tube, he wanted to eat it too!!!!

Dr. O, I have printed off the HA worming schedule, we are going to follow this suggested rotation.
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Susan Bilsky
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Post Number: 393
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Posted on Wednesday, Jun 1, 2005 - 1:28 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Wow!, a horse that loves his dewormer . Gotta love that .

I didn't think that his previous owner mixed the dewormers together, but it was just the way it was worded that had me wondering.

Sounds like you are on the right track and maybe to facilitate the shedding process, you could use a shedding blade, in case we get overwhelmed with some heat . The rain today is good though for the new seeding. You have a nice home for your guys.

Susan B.
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