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Discussion on Supplements containing Creatine and/or Gamma Oryzanol in Halter Horses

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Michelle Atkeisson
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Username: cmatexas

Post Number: 72
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, Jul 10, 2009 - 1:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dr. O,

Is there any evidence to show that either supplements will improve the appearance, i.e. muscle definition, in horses? A very reliable and experienced trainer/breeder has suggested it for our 9 year old gelding who is possibly N/H, but totally asymptomatic. I know the research shows no great improvement in muscle performance, but I am looking for something that gives that last little "pop" coming up to a big show. I do not want to feed anything that could possibly cause a problem. She says that it gives short term improvement in some horses with large, but smooth, muscle mass, but that not all horses will see improvement. I have a little over two weeks until the show, and he has hit a plateau. According to her research, it can increase fluid retention in the cell, making the muscle appear larger. I have seen some mention of this in my own research. Safe to give him? (Yes, I know I need to get him tested, and will get it done, but he has never shown us any evidence of it, and I watch his potassium intake just to be on the safe side)
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Susie in AZ
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Friday, Jul 10, 2009 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

What is N/H?
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Michelle Atkeisson
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Username: cmatexas

Post Number: 73
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, Jul 10, 2009 - 8:27 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

HYPP N/H. HYPP is a genetic disorder that can affect quarter horses that are descendants of a horse named Impressive. Can be common in many lines of Halter Horses. It's also a hot button issue among many QH owners. :-) I mention it b/c horses that exhibit symptoms require special dietary considerations.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Monday, Jul 13, 2009 - 10:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Michelle I cannot find any work in horses but in humans there is some evidence that creatine can increase body mass but I cannot find supporting or negative evidence about gamma oryzanol. Neither do I see safety studies on this practice in horses.
DrO
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Michelle Atkeisson
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Monday, Jul 13, 2009 - 1:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks, Dr. O. We are watching him very closely. We only have a short time until the show. We'll let you know what happens. :-)
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