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Member: jojo15 |
Posted on Sunday, Sep 19, 2010 - 4:21 pm: would giving activated charcoal affect the worming die off? or affect the gut adversely from it? or worsen any possible colic if headed that route?To give some history horse was wormed on thursday. fine until this morning when it started acting drunk and weak so we gave activated charcoal thinking she got into some poisons or ate a toxic plant. didn't dawn on me that her behavior was a massive worm die off till she manured small red worms. anything we can do to make the horse more comfortable? or anything to look for that a vet is needed? jo |
Member: ajudson1 |
Posted on Sunday, Sep 19, 2010 - 9:24 pm: YIKES!! Wouldn't you want to have the vet out ASAP and tube the horse with oil??Or would the charcoal slow down the poison of the worming product and thus slow down the worms dying? I really don't know, but I think I'd have a vet out and moniter the horse really closely. I hope the horse is o.k.! |
Member: pattyb |
Posted on Sunday, Sep 19, 2010 - 9:48 pm: I second that Angie...at least get the vet on the phone and let him/her decide if this is urgent! |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Sunday, Sep 19, 2010 - 9:56 pm: Hello jojo,When animals experience a massive intestinal worm die off the chief short term problems are hemorrhage and acute inflammatory bowel disease. IV fluids, antibiotics, and anti inflammatories would be the treatments of choice. I agree with Angie, if your horse is acting depressed or weak, a call to your vet is in order quickly. DrO |
Member: jojo15 |
Posted on Sunday, Sep 19, 2010 - 11:21 pm: It's one of those its not my horse scenarios. Trying to help a new neighbor who jumped into horses etc. boutght the horse with no knowledge, paid a pittance, from a not so respected source, more interested in new saddle then calling out the vet. and at this moment, haven't taken my advice to call one. Advice i gave the day the horse showed up.Re: vet. I would have called mine. I had offered let's get my vet out a few times. I've never seen a horse act like this after a worming. But have seen one act like this after eating a toxic plant. and the charcoal helped immensely. The question just kept coming up in my head did i make it worse with the charcoal? or did it help? or do nothing? I'm feeling a tad guilty as i did say worm the horse. He didn't look as debilitated as he must have been. I'll find out in the am if they finally called one. or what happened to the horse. You'd think i'd learn by now to stay out of situations like this. i jsut hoped i didn't make anything worse with the charcoal. |
Member: mrose |
Posted on Sunday, Sep 19, 2010 - 11:58 pm: Just to ease your mind, I don't see how charcoal could make matters worse and it might have helped. Hope the horse is o.k. It's really difficult to mind your own business when you see an animal in need of help. |
Member: npo33901 |
Posted on Monday, Sep 20, 2010 - 6:16 am: It washes down to people - how horrible some can be....Poor horse and poor you. Let's hope all goes well for both of you , YOU are a good girl Jojo !! |
Member: ajudson1 |
Posted on Monday, Sep 20, 2010 - 7:31 am: Jojo,Oh my, I feel for you...having to stand by and wanting to help and dealing with ignorant people. I believe like Sara the charcoal is not making the situation worse and may be helping. Without a vet or finding some toxic plant you just don't know what to offer for help as you don't know what you are dealing with! I hope this turns out good for the horse and the owner learns something. |
Member: cometrdr |
Posted on Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 - 5:31 pm: so Jojo what happened??? inquiring minds want to know? |