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Ann Schrichte
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Username: Annes

Post Number: 104
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, Jul 21, 2005 - 4:28 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have a 100 gallon Rubbermaid water trough that just sprung a leak near the bottom. It was fine before I cleaned and refilled it last night. This morning it was leaking and only half full. I thought about duct tape but wondered if anyone else has found anything that worked well. Thanks for any ideas.
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Sara Wolff
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Username: Mrose

Post Number: 778
Registered: 1-2000
Posted on Thursday, Jul 21, 2005 - 4:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Wonder how that gooey glue that is used to repair tennis shoes would work? My son mended the dog's dish with it and it's holding together really good.
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Little King Ranch
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Username: Eoeo

Post Number: 194
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, Jul 21, 2005 - 5:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I would try the calking they use on aquariums. EO
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 13390
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Friday, Jul 22, 2005 - 7:35 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The first step is to empty the tub and examine the crack or leak, once we know where it is and how big it is you can make some decisions. If you emptied it by opening the drain, did you possibly not close it back tightly. I suspect we have a dozen of the things around the farm and though they get rough treatment and some have to be over 15 years old and we have never had trouble with one, but we turn them over and don't mess with the drain.
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timothy miller
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, Jul 22, 2005 - 10:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Number of mine have leaked at the drain plug. There is a sealant sold in plumbing section of any hardware store that stays soft, fixed all my leaks.
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Ann Schrichte
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Username: Annes

Post Number: 105
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, Jul 22, 2005 - 2:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

It isn't leaking at the drain. It is about 3 inches to the left of the drain where it curves in. I've had two of these for several years and never had this happen before. It is only a small "razor blade like" slit. I can get my finger nail in it from the inside and the outside. I just got back from the hardware store with a waterproof plumbing goo they suggested. I've just read the small print and it said not to use in contact with drinking water and specifically mentioned animals. I will look again but maybe I need to buy a new one.
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Cheryl Hohler
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Post Number: 310
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Friday, Jul 22, 2005 - 4:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Aquarium sealant works wonders!
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S. T. Bruce
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Post Number: 207
Registered: 3-2000
Posted on Friday, Jul 22, 2005 - 9:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

All the previous suggestions are good however I would suggest that you contact Rubbermaid for the proper way to seal the leak. I have several Rubbermaid products and I can't speak too highly of them. I've done this with other products and have always had success in solving the problem.
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Ann Schrichte
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Username: Annes

Post Number: 106
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, Jul 23, 2005 - 11:51 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have gained some time to solve this problem because last night the leak had stopped by itself. I am sure the next time it is moved it will leak again. I will buy some aquarium sealant to have on hand and also try to contact Rubbermaid and see what they say. Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 13393
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 23, 2005 - 9:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Tim, do you drain them by the plug? We never touch it and just turn them over. Aquarium sealer and silastic sealer are the same and will work is used correctly and perfectly safe to use no matter what the instructions say but I do agree with ST call Rubbermaid and see what they recommend they may no something that works even better. Let us know too.
DrO
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Ann Schrichte
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Username: Annes

Post Number: 107
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, Jul 25, 2005 - 3:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I called Rubbermaid and was told that customers have reported to them that "J.B. Weld" adhesive works to repair leaks in the Rubbermaid trough. It is not toxic when completely dry. I had not heard of this adhesive but found it without any problem at my local hardware store for $4.99. The trough mysteriously started leaking again so I will be repairing this soon. By the way, Rubbermaid said the warranty is 1 year and added that when "exposed to the elements" this can happen.
Dr. O - I do drain them by the plug. I keep refilled with fresh water and never let them get low so I am not able to turn them over.
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Ann Schrichte
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Username: Annes

Post Number: 108
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 26, 2005 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Follow up - I got an email this morning from Rubbermaid saying they do not recommend patching stock tanks. (I had emailed them first and then decided to call.) Just thought I'd pass this along.
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D.
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Username: Dyduroc

Post Number: 162
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 26, 2005 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ann, did they give you a reason why they don't recommend patching stock tanks?

D.
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Ann Schrichte
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Username: Annes

Post Number: 109
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 26, 2005 - 3:29 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

No they didn't but the email also added what the rep told me on the phone about customers using the J.B. Weld successfully. Maybe they want to sell new tanks? I am still going to try the adhesive since I've already purchased it. I'll let everyone know how it works.
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Angie Judson
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Post Number: 240
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, Jul 29, 2005 - 2:27 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I think they just want to sell more tanks. Another way to stop the leak if it's at the bottem edge is to keep sand on the bottem of the tank. Of course then you'd want to be sure and keep the tank full enough so the sand isn't ingested. That would slow the leak, not completely stop it.

Another idea is to drill a small hole where the leak is and put a piece of rubber on the inside. Then you place a screw thru the middle of the rubber patch and tank and tighten it all together with a washer and nut. Probably the least toxic idea there is.
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JoAnn C. McCall
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, Aug 4, 2005 - 7:48 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

We had most of our grey poly tanks split the same way when we were caughht by an early freeze up and they stood full of ice all winter. Too cheap to buy a "plastic welding kit" I found on line, and suspicious of adhesives, I dried them out well shaved material off the rim and melted it into the split, inside and outside, with a soldering iron, making a "hot weld" patch.
One needs re-do, but the rest are holding, and would be non-toxic. I always drill the rims so they will drain when I dump them out and not retain a couple quarts of dirty water, so in future I will save the material the bit chucks out for repairs.
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Ann S
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Username: annes

Post Number: 274
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 22, 2008 - 3:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I finally got around to fixing the leak on this water trough and used aquarium sealer. It was fast and easy and now no leaks. I can't believe it took me 3 years to get around to fixing it!
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Andrea Duncan
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Username: babychop

Post Number: 131
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 22, 2008 - 4:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

LOL! If you ever find it leaks from the plug we use teflon tape when we seal it back & it solves it. The aquarium sealer was sheer genius.
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jos
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Username: paardex

Post Number: 913
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 22, 2008 - 5:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks ladies I was just going to degrade a leaking trough to a flower container! Expensive and not exactly pretty
Jos
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Andrea Duncan
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Username: babychop

Post Number: 132
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 22, 2008 - 5:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Jos if it makes you feel any better I did bequeath a smaller one that we couldn't keep one of the Danes from using as a foot bath to the boyfriend. He's turned it into a vegetable garden...
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Linda Schilkowsky, DVM
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Username: lindas

Post Number: 31
Registered: 2-2008
Posted on Tuesday, Jul 22, 2008 - 10:20 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hey, I saw some stuff this weekend on one of those come on "as seen on TV" ads, some kind of putty. I think it might work in this situation. But I don't remember what it is called! You will just have to look for it on TV. Then again, I would probably buy the stuff and wait three years to use, then it would be hard as a rock. Let's hear it for the procrastinators!
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jos
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Post Number: 914
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 - 2:59 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Gosh he is on the same line as I am! I was thinking with horsemanure and straw on the bottom it would be a lovely place to have wintersalad.
Jos
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Ann S
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Username: annes

Post Number: 275
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 - 10:15 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The aquarium sealer said it was not toxic to fish so I felt safe using it. The first stuff I bought at the hardware store did not say it wasn't toxic. I do like everyone's idea for "Plan B" and my choice would be growing tomatoes!
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Andrea Duncan
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Username: babychop

Post Number: 133
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 - 10:51 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I think Linda's talking about that wonder putty the guy that sells OxyClean has on the market. You cut off a piece of it & rub it around in your hands to mix the 2 components and it is supposed to bond anything. Not so sure that wouldn't be toxic in this situation though, probably best to stick to the aquarium stuff.

Oh and jos, I'm right there with you on the tomatoes, I used to grow the BEST tomatoes but since the vermin have found our garden all we get is onions & garlic. It's open season on squirrels & bunnies in these parts!
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