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Darren Robertson
| | Posted on Tuesday, Oct 26, 1999 - 8:32 am: |   |
Do you have any info on the product called Copra, it is a coconut based meal.
If not do you want what I can provide for reference. :-)
Darren Robertson |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
| | Posted on Wednesday, Oct 27, 1999 - 7:02 am: | |
Here is what I have for coconut meal or copra meal:
Dry Matter: 92%
Dig Energy: 1.3 MCal/lb (2.8 / kg)
Crude Protein: 23%
Crude Fiber: 15%
Ca: 0.2%
Pos: 0.65%
Its fiber and protein profiles are very good but the Ca deficiency must be compensated for before this can be used as a staple.
DrO |
Tressna Martin
| | Posted on Wednesday, Feb 16, 2000 - 11:18 pm: | |
We use Copra a lot in Northern Australia and it is often used as a 'fattener'. Recently I've been advised not to give it to horses that are 'puffers' as it can heat them up too much and cause them to blow. I've used it for two years and both my horses are puffers - it hasn't seemed to make any difference. Is the advice an old wive's tale? |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
| | Posted on Thursday, Feb 17, 2000 - 6:41 am: | |
I am not sure what a puffer is Tressna. Is there a medical term or can you be a bit descriptive of the problem. I assume when say "blow" you mean breath hard.
DrO |
rachel pearce
| | Posted on Monday, Apr 3, 2000 - 8:36 am: | |
Coming from the north australian region, we(the people(and the horses) suffer from the extemities of heat and humidity.
Many of us like Tresna Martin. are throughbred owners. I have found that not only throughbred horses suffer, also, some southern horses, horses lacking in vitamins, some older horses and those being fed high energy grains. All these can suffer from the "puffs". Depending on their age, condition, and diet.
By using the term "puffs" that we do here, it is an extreme case of a respritory tract disease. On set of the puffs may include irregular heavy breathing, lethargy, loss of appitite, alot of sweating whilst being idle, increasingly thirsty. The danger of the "puffs" is when the horse continues to pant heavily, and ceases to sweat.
The disease has progressed when: it no longer sweats in extreme hot tempertures, or under excercise(this is more apparent when there is no sweat under the saddle blanket after a work out) here in the tropics).
Relating back to the topic of whether Copra can cause the "puffs". I have found that it depends entirely on each and every individual horse, here in the Northern region of Australia, and what we are feeding, not just the Copra.
I have successfully used Copra on some horses, although others appear to 'heat up'. I guess it all boiles back to the handler, using his/her commonsense and accertaining each horses individual metabolism when using differnt types of feeds.
This opinion is entirely of my own. Although, I am desperate to seek fattener feeds that contains energy, ones that do not send a horse 'high', also, not depleting the animals vitamins/ proteins (and or increasing and maintaing the vitamin/mineral/ protein levels). For I had just been reading an article that wheat bran feeding periodically is basically a no-no, with good reasons as such:
-"wheat bran used indiscrimately can cause severe metabolic disorers, resulting in orthopedic, conditioning and digestive problems.
-wheat bran is credited with removing sand from the intestine. Wheat bran actually floated in the horses gut while the sand sunk".
The article I found on the website was much more intense, although I just quoted a couple of lines. It is articles or people I speak to that keeps myself concerned to remain in search of that perfect balanced diet that I am able to diversify between the horses.
Regarless of the good and bad of differnt types of feeds we hear about, I believe that we all will be on the continual search for the perfect feeding programme for each and every individual horse (remembering we must take in consideration, age, condition, vitamin replacement, excerise to feeding, ect). I AM!.
HAPPY HORSE RIDING!!!
P.S So, please, if you know of feed types and it's properties please let me know. Non of us are 'experts' and I will always be on the search for improvement, seeking others feed advice.
By the way I feel really privellaged to be apart of this website. Thankyou. |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
| | Posted on Monday, Apr 3, 2000 - 9:49 am: | |
The puffs, sounds like COPD to me. See Equine Diseases: Respiratory System: Heaves & Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease. Does this seem right?
DrO |
Dale S,ith
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Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, Nov 23, 2002 - 10:05 pm: | |
Having had horses in Australia and Paoua New Guinea and seen the Puff's condition described above I believe the correct term for this is Anhydrosis.We found that by shifting the horses to a different altitude the condition usualy dissappeared. |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Friday, Nov 29, 2002 - 8:15 am: | |
HEllo Dale,
We can rule out anhydrosis in the above post because the horse sweats profusely, see » Equine Diseases » Lameness » Weakness, Exhaustion, and Overheating » Anhidrosis & Deficient Sweating for more on this condition.
DrO |
