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jos
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Username: Paardex
Post Number: 65
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, Mar 19, 2006 - 12:46 pm: |   |
Hope this is the right place to post this question and the right english word to use.
I would like to know if anyone did build his or her stable for inseminating and ultrasounding his or her horses. I would like a mare to be inseminated at home and for only the occasional mare a ready made 'reproduction stable' is very expensive. Has anybody had one build and what measures should it have what material is most apropriate?All information is much appreciated
Jos |
Sue Blair
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Username: 444444
Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, Mar 19, 2006 - 1:45 pm: | |
I will be having a mare inseminated at my home stables this spring. My vet, the former head of the University of Georgia vet school teaching/breeding program will be doing the insemination. He told me that I did not need anything special to do it. We will do it in the stable aisle just like we always do ultrasounds. (I bred another mare four years ago and she had several ultrasounds in the aisle.) I believe you just have to find a good vet for the procedure. Others may certainly have other experiences.
Sue |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 15102
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Monday, Mar 20, 2006 - 7:08 am: | |
There are not many requirements jos. While having a set of stocks would be nice it would be hard to justify and as Sue suggests not essential for most mares. For foaling you might want a large stall, say 12 by 16 as a minimum, for medium size horses.
DrO
Sue would this be Dr. Caudil who does your work?
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Sue Blair
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, Mar 20, 2006 - 10:51 am: | |
Yes! Dr Caudle, Doc has been one of my vets for the past 11 years. I actually helped him get his practice going here on weekends when he was still at the University. He and Gary Huesner have taught classes for us and set us up with medical kits. We are 2+ hours from the closest large animal vet. Doc has now bought a house in the mountains and practices here Thur-Sat. He even rides with me occasionally. He's a great guy. Do you know him? Sue |
jos
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Username: Paardex
Post Number: 66
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Mar 20, 2006 - 2:36 pm: | |
Thanks Sue for your reaction, we usually had the mare[s] inseminated and ultrasounded in the aisle or in their boxes with occasionally a few packs of hay behind them to prevent them from hurting the vet.In this case the mare[never before inseminated] is very big very fast and easily panicks. I do not want the vet to be at risk. On the other hand I would like her to be at home because she is much calmer at home and tends to listen very well to me.The attending vet is very calm and experienced and said he would be willing to try ultrasounding and inseminating in the usual way, I just thought it would be safer to build a stable they have at all the insemination stables.
Dr. O I would like to hear your comment on this.
All other requirements like a big foaling stable are already available.
Jos |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 15112
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 - 10:02 am: | |
I think when you say stable jos, you mean a set of stocks right? No doubt they would be helpful.
Yes it was Al Caudle and we still run into each other at the AAEP each year and exchange a few words. Thanks for the correct spelling of Al's last name. He is a fine fellow, though I got one of the worse kicks of my life at one of his education seminars. We were there for a weekend of intensive training in embryo transfer...must of been 15 years ago. The mares we worked on were placed in a set of stocks (a low bar across the back), sedated, and twitched. I was placing the intrauterine catheter to collect the embryo. The moment I touched this mares cervix, she popped her back end out of the stocks and let go with both hind feet. Well...there I am, right up against her my arm in here vagina, with the result being she basically pushed me up off the ground and I flew through the air... at least 10 feet, landing on my back with 2 cracked ribs. Al came running over, "are you all right, are you all right?" . I moaned something about yes I thought so and I will never forget his wide-eyed deliberative reply, "Well, I quess we won't use her for transfer anymore". I guess not.
There is a lesson from this story. The mare had been sedated with xylazine before the kicking phenomenea had been associated with this and other a2 sedatives. Now, in order to do such work behind a horse we combine the xylazine with torbugesic which seems to prevent it, for more on all this see the sedative topic and look up these 2 drugs. If your mare is a problem, sedation will probably be necessary.
DrO |
jos
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Username: Paardex
Post Number: 67
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 - 6:47 am: | |
Thanks Dr. O I will take care a set of stocks are available in a stable with a low ceiling. As the vets are experienced reproduction vets I will let them decide on the sedation issue.
Jos |
