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Mandy
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Username: Bucky

Post Number: 141
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Monday, Apr 24, 2006 - 11:23 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I recently read you can feed your horse black oiled sunflower seeds and it will make his coat nice and shiny. Has anyone ever done this and is it okay to feed them in the shell? Don't want to cause a digestive upset
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Vicki Zaneis
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Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Monday, Apr 24, 2006 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

These seeds (in the shell) are in the grain mix Parellis use at their Ocala, FL facility. Just make sure the seeds are meant for feeding rather than planting, in which case they could be chemically treated. I wouldn't feed horses a lot of them suddenly without following the proper protocol for diet changes.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 - 7:37 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Does anyone have a nutrient profile of the seeds?
DrO
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joj
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Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 - 8:54 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dr. O try this link.
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=57

I think the oil content in the seeds is what is so healthy. and just like feeding oils in their feeds, BOSS does the same thing but doesn't get them as fat.??? not sure.

I stumbled on this by mistake. My goats eat black oil seeds daily. but as such are very finicky eaters. My hoover, i mean my horse, would get into their pens at night and eat what they didn't. I figured the dropped hay is what she was after. Not the seeds. But it seems she will go for the seeds before any dropped hay... she's been doing this for a bout 3 or 4 months, and i haven't had any colic or bad episodes..
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Melissa A Mathurin
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Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 - 9:13 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

One of my two horses has EPSM. I have been feeding 1-2 cups/day of BOSS to both of my horses for several years now. They have very glossy coats (when not wearing their winter coats).

There has been a lot of discussion about BOSS on the rural heritage web site with Dr. Valentine.
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Ann
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 - 10:52 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

BOSS is that the product label. ?? Do you find them in feed stores.. Are they for birds and horses.. ?? I feed Oil, but am sending a filly off to training, i am sure they won't want to mess with the oil.., after reading this thread i think i will add ''BOSS'' to her supplements..

On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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joj
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 - 11:41 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

No BOSS is just an easy acronym.. what i buy is at the feed s tores. not the seed with the white strips, they must be black. and i bet that food grade for humans you could find at the health food stores, and would be cleaner. and less chance of rancidity. I buy bird food grade, and not always happy with the outcome. lots of dirt and such in there, but with the goats they pick thru it. A horse might just gobble the whole thing up. What my horse gets is what she finds. i don't feed a scoop per se. since she doesnt need anymore weight. But some people do feed it as a staple.
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Melissa A Mathurin
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 - 7:36 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I buy mine at tractor supply, lowes and/or walmart in the bird seed section. The label will specifically say Black Oil Sunflower Seeds. I try to buy the largest bag (usually 40-50lbs). I've never had a problem with them being rancid (she's says crossing her fingers )
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 - 10:02 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

joj, those numbers are for hulled seeds and would not remotely apply to the horse products (hulls on)I have seen do to the large thick hull. Does anyone have the nutrient profile off a bag?
DrO
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Mandy
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 - 2:20 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

This is what I found via USDA, kind of handy.

http://www.ars.usda.gov/Services/docs.htm?docid=7783

Measure Description 1 cup, with hulls, edible yield
Servings 1
Servings Weight 46g
Water (g) 2.47
Energy (kcal) 262
Protein (g) 10.48
Fat, total (g) 22.8
Carbohydrate (g) 8.63
Sugars, total (g) 1.21
Fiber, total dietary (g) 4.8
Alcohol (g) 0
Cholesterol (mg) 0
Saturated fatty acids, total (g) 2.392
4:0 (g) 0
6:0 (g) 0
8:0 (g) 0
10:0 (g) 0
12:0 (g) 0
14:0 (g) 0.023
16:0 (g) 1.283
18:0 (g) 1.012
Monounsaturated fatty acids, total (g) 4.352
16:1 (g) 0.023
18:1 (g) 4.306
20:1 (g) 0.023
22:1 (g) 0
Polyunsaturated fatty acids, total (g) 15.056
18:2 (g) 15.01
18:3 (g) 0.032
18:4 (g) 0
20:4 (g) 0
20:5 n-3 (g) 0
22:5 n-3 (g) 0
22:6 n-3 (g) 0
Calcium (mg) 53
Copper (mg) 0.805
Iron (mg) 3.11
Magnesium (mg) 163
Phosphorus (mg) 324
Potassium (mg) 317
Selenium (mcg) 27.4
Sodium (mg) 1
Zinc (mg) 2.33
Vitamin A, RAE (mcg) 1
Vitamin C (mg) 0.6
Vitamin B-6 (mg) 0.354
Vitamin B-12 (mcg) 0
Vitamin E, alpha-tocopherol (mg) 15.87
Folate, DFE (mcg) 104
Folate, food (mcg) 104
Folate, total (mcg) 104
Folic acid (mcg) 0
Vitamin K (mcg) 1.2
Niacin (mg) 2.07
Retinol (mcg) 0
Riboflavin (mg) 0.115
Thiamin (mg) 1.053
Carotene, beta (mcg) 14
Carotene, alpha (mcg) 0
Cryptoxanthin, beta (mcg) 0
Lutein + zeaxanthin (mcg) 0
Lycopene (mcg) 0
Caffeine (mg) 0
Theobromine (mg)
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Mary Ream
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Username: Ebony

Post Number: 5
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I recently started feeding the recipe that Parrelis have on their web sight and have noticed a big improvement on the conditions of my horses. You can experiment with how much to give but normally not as much as you would sweet feed. We always fed Purina before. We add just enough malasses I think 10% so it isnt too dry.
Mary
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