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Mandy
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Username: Bucky
Post Number: 141
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Apr 24, 2006 - 11:23 am: |   |
I recently read you can feed your horse black oiled sunflower seeds and it will make his coat nice and shiny. Has anyone ever done this and is it okay to feed them in the shell? Don't want to cause a digestive upset |
Vicki Zaneis
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Username: Vickiann
Post Number: 214
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Monday, Apr 24, 2006 - 4:10 pm: | |
These seeds (in the shell) are in the grain mix Parellis use at their Ocala, FL facility. Just make sure the seeds are meant for feeding rather than planting, in which case they could be chemically treated. I wouldn't feed horses a lot of them suddenly without following the proper protocol for diet changes. |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 15457
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 - 7:37 am: | |
Does anyone have a nutrient profile of the seeds?
DrO |
joj
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Username: Jojo15
Post Number: 685
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 - 8:54 am: | |
Dr. O try this link.
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=57
I think the oil content in the seeds is what is so healthy. and just like feeding oils in their feeds, BOSS does the same thing but doesn't get them as fat.??? not sure.
I stumbled on this by mistake. My goats eat black oil seeds daily. but as such are very finicky eaters. My hoover, i mean my horse, would get into their pens at night and eat what they didn't. I figured the dropped hay is what she was after. Not the seeds. But it seems she will go for the seeds before any dropped hay... she's been doing this for a bout 3 or 4 months, and i haven't had any colic or bad episodes.. |
Melissa A Mathurin
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Username: Melis
Post Number: 36
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 - 9:13 am: | |
One of my two horses has EPSM. I have been feeding 1-2 cups/day of BOSS to both of my horses for several years now. They have very glossy coats (when not wearing their winter coats).
There has been a lot of discussion about BOSS on the rural heritage web site with Dr. Valentine. |
Ann
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Username: Dres
Post Number: 755
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 - 10:52 am: | |
BOSS is that the product label. ?? Do you find them in feed stores.. Are they for birds and horses.. ?? I feed Oil, but am sending a filly off to training, i am sure they won't want to mess with the oil.., after reading this thread i think i will add ''BOSS'' to her supplements..
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots.. |
joj
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Username: Jojo15
Post Number: 686
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, Apr 25, 2006 - 11:41 am: | |
No BOSS is just an easy acronym.. what i buy is at the feed s tores. not the seed with the white strips, they must be black. and i bet that food grade for humans you could find at the health food stores, and would be cleaner. and less chance of rancidity. I buy bird food grade, and not always happy with the outcome. lots of dirt and such in there, but with the goats they pick thru it. A horse might just gobble the whole thing up. What my horse gets is what she finds. i don't feed a scoop per se. since she doesnt need anymore weight. But some people do feed it as a staple. |
Melissa A Mathurin
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Username: Melis
Post Number: 37
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 - 7:36 am: | |
I buy mine at tractor supply, lowes and/or walmart in the bird seed section. The label will specifically say Black Oil Sunflower Seeds. I try to buy the largest bag (usually 40-50lbs). I've never had a problem with them being rancid (she's says crossing her fingers  ) |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 15466
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 - 10:02 am: | |
joj, those numbers are for hulled seeds and would not remotely apply to the horse products (hulls on)I have seen do to the large thick hull. Does anyone have the nutrient profile off a bag?
DrO |
Mandy
Member
Username: Bucky
Post Number: 142
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Apr 26, 2006 - 2:20 pm: | |
This is what I found via USDA, kind of handy.
http://www.ars.usda.gov/Services/docs.htm?docid=7783
Measure Description 1 cup, with hulls, edible yield
Servings 1
Servings Weight 46g
Water (g) 2.47
Energy (kcal) 262
Protein (g) 10.48
Fat, total (g) 22.8
Carbohydrate (g) 8.63
Sugars, total (g) 1.21
Fiber, total dietary (g) 4.8
Alcohol (g) 0
Cholesterol (mg) 0
Saturated fatty acids, total (g) 2.392
4:0 (g) 0
6:0 (g) 0
8:0 (g) 0
10:0 (g) 0
12:0 (g) 0
14:0 (g) 0.023
16:0 (g) 1.283
18:0 (g) 1.012
Monounsaturated fatty acids, total (g) 4.352
16:1 (g) 0.023
18:1 (g) 4.306
20:1 (g) 0.023
22:1 (g) 0
Polyunsaturated fatty acids, total (g) 15.056
18:2 (g) 15.01
18:3 (g) 0.032
18:4 (g) 0
20:4 (g) 0
20:5 n-3 (g) 0
22:5 n-3 (g) 0
22:6 n-3 (g) 0
Calcium (mg) 53
Copper (mg) 0.805
Iron (mg) 3.11
Magnesium (mg) 163
Phosphorus (mg) 324
Potassium (mg) 317
Selenium (mcg) 27.4
Sodium (mg) 1
Zinc (mg) 2.33
Vitamin A, RAE (mcg) 1
Vitamin C (mg) 0.6
Vitamin B-6 (mg) 0.354
Vitamin B-12 (mcg) 0
Vitamin E, alpha-tocopherol (mg) 15.87
Folate, DFE (mcg) 104
Folate, food (mcg) 104
Folate, total (mcg) 104
Folic acid (mcg) 0
Vitamin K (mcg) 1.2
Niacin (mg) 2.07
Retinol (mcg) 0
Riboflavin (mg) 0.115
Thiamin (mg) 1.053
Carotene, beta (mcg) 14
Carotene, alpha (mcg) 0
Cryptoxanthin, beta (mcg) 0
Lutein + zeaxanthin (mcg) 0
Lycopene (mcg) 0
Caffeine (mg) 0
Theobromine (mg) |
Mary Ream
New Member
Username: Ebony
Post Number: 5
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 2:03 pm: | |
I recently started feeding the recipe that Parrelis have on their web sight and have noticed a big improvement on the conditions of my horses. You can experiment with how much to give but normally not as much as you would sweet feed. We always fed Purina before. We add just enough malasses I think 10% so it isnt too dry.
Mary |
