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Karen Jost
| | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2000 - 11:56 am: |   |
I have a 2 year old mare that is always "ouchy" for about a week after a hoof trim. Otherwise, she is very sound. I have heard of Venice Turpentine used for toughening soles, but I would swear I've been told painting the soles with Iodine works too. Anyone else hear of this, or did it just come to me in a dream? ;-)
Thanks, Karen |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
| | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2000 - 7:38 pm: | |
Yep, they will both toughen the soles as will my favorite, formaldehyde. They all work by dehydrating the horn.
DrO |
KarenJ
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2000 - 12:45 am: | |
Thank goodness, I thought I was crazy, I searched this site for a reference to using it for toughening soles and didn't find anything. I'll stick with the iodine, I can find it anywhere ;-)
Karen |
Laura LHuillier (Laurall)
| | Posted on Sunday, Oct 29, 2000 - 1:10 pm: | |
One week ago, I had the shoes taken off my mare. She has never gone without, because her white hooves don't hold up too well withouth shoes. I took the shoes off because she is not being pastured with other horses and for safety sake the shoes were removed. My problem.... I think the farrier trimmed her right front hoove too close because she is limping and started so just minutes after he was done. I'm giving her bute twice a day on the advice of my vet and spraying gentle iodine on her sole 2 times a day, but still the limbing continues. Will putting shoes on her front feet hurt her more? That's the only other thing I can think of to help my horse? Laura |
Laura LHuillier (Laurall)
| | Posted on Sunday, Oct 29, 2000 - 9:53 pm: | |
Regarding my above note....I'm really not that illiterate, was just in a hurry. I meant to say she is now being pastured with other horses, and ...but still the limping continues. At least it's good for a few laughs. :o) Laura |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM (Dro)
| | Posted on Monday, Oct 30, 2000 - 8:51 am: | |
Hello Laura,
Whether shoeing at this point would help or hinder would depend on a thorough exam of the foot, particularly where the close areas in the sole are located, what does your vet say?
DrO |
Laura LHuillier (Laurall)
| | Posted on Monday, Oct 30, 2000 - 11:49 am: | |
He hasn't come out to look at her yet, so I guess I should take her in and have him take a look, right? Without seeing her, how many weeks should it take for enough growth to relieve her discomfort? I'm guessing she needs about 1/4 inch of growth and she gets biotin daily. Laura |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM (Dro)
| | Posted on Tuesday, Oct 31, 2000 - 6:26 am: | |
About 2 to 3 weeks if she does not bruise and abscess.
DrO |
Joe A. Dale (Jodog)
| | Posted on Thursday, Jan 4, 2001 - 3:04 pm: | |
Anyone hear of using turpentine to toughen the sole? |
josephine milano (Jojo15)
| | Posted on Thursday, Jan 4, 2001 - 11:28 pm: | |
Don't laugh but down here in the South (florida) we use - Used Motor oil NOT NEW but used. don't ask why but some of the old track people swear by it. You should see the faces of the workers at nearby garages when we go and ask for their drained motor oil. Could be an old wives tale...
My mare is ouchy every time I take her shoes off. Twice in the past year since I wasn't doing anything with her. The first time I thought it was an abscess but the second time just led me to the fact that her feet are toooooo soft. I have her front shoes always on and now her back shoes are off. that does the trick. I can pasture her with the others and not worry too much about her kicking out and injuring the others.
Also, my vet gave me sole packs,(looks and feels like a mud pack with medication to draw out the abscess) it fits inside the sole of the horse then you wrap it nice and neat and its like she has slippers on. I don't think it would be detrimental to use when ouchy, but ask the vet first. |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM (Dro)
| | Posted on Friday, Jan 5, 2001 - 9:36 am: | |
Joe, there is a farriers product called Venice Turpentine that has been used for years for this purpose. I am unsure how it might differ from regular turpentine.
DrO |
Christine C. Mills (Chrism)
| | Posted on Friday, Jan 5, 2001 - 11:37 am: | |
Perhaps it's point of origin?
(Impish Grin.) |
Shelley Wiley (Swiley)
| | Posted on Friday, Jan 5, 2001 - 2:25 pm: | |
Oh do I have the stuff for you folks!
Years ago my neurotic mare ran the fence line after weaning her baby and tore a shoe off. Before I knew it she had worn that hoof down to a stump (It was quite shocking). My vet gave me this poultice to wrap it in. It made the entire horny part tough as nails. It wasnt just a drying effect, it literally made it hard and tough. No chipping, no wear, it was impermeable. Its called Equi-Phar, MG-60, by VEDCO and its called a topoical poultice. It says Epsom Salt and Methyl Salicylate on the contents. I have to order it thru my vet. Just one warning, dont use it within week or two of a trimming or your shoer will want to strangle you! |
Victoria Seisser (Vseisser)
| | Posted on Saturday, Mar 3, 2001 - 12:58 pm: | |
I am a new horse owner. I have a 4yr old QH. When I got him he was unshod, but had been previously. I think the lady was lazy and knew she was going to sell, its winter and letthem be. The ferrier shod his fronts, looked at his backs and said if he thought he could he would leave them. He has had sore back since, although 7 days out a little better. I called the farrier again. He said he knew his feet were a little sore, but was going to still try the conservative route. He now is ging to get his backs shod. He is pastured with other horses in a rainy California climate so the risk of stone bruising is high. I did not have Iodine at the time but Betadine. Do they do the same thing for hardening the sole. Do you purchase venice turpinetine through a vet, equine store or where??
Should I expect tenderness every time he is shod now? |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM (Dro)
| | Posted on Sunday, Mar 4, 2001 - 11:22 am: | |
Hello Victoria,
Most your questions and some you have not asked yet are found at, Equine Diseases: Lameness: Foot and Sole Problems: Problems Following Shoeing or Trimming. One that there might not be an answer to is: venice turpentine is usually gotten through your farrier or farrier supply.
DrO |
Holly Wood
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Username: Hwood
Post Number: 417
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, Nov 2, 2003 - 5:03 pm: | |
Dr. O.,
Formaldehyde has toxic fumes, doesn't it? And is it a known carcinogen? If so, why do you prefer to use it rather than another sole hardener? An acquaintance who used to use a 20% formaldehyde solution to toughen his horses' soles discontinued use for the above two reasons. Do you find it more effective than the other solutions/preparations mentioned above?
Thanks,
Holly |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 9400
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Monday, Nov 3, 2003 - 6:22 am: | |
I have not found anything that works half as well Holly. We have an article that addresses these problems and makes suggestions to avoid complications with its use see, » Equine Medications and Nutriceuticals » Antibiotics and Antimicrobials » Formaldehyde and Formalin Use.
DrO |
