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Sandra F. Keller (Skeller)
Posted on Monday, Jan 29, 2001 - 11:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

My mare just turned up her nose at the new container of Biotin I purchased. And believe me, she is NOT a picky eater. After feeding there is not a scrap of hay to be seen in her stall. (she now eats most of her grain, but very slowly. If you have a horse that bolts their feed, this stuff sure seems to slow them down). I'm hoping someone on this board will have a good suggestion before I invest another $35.

FYI, what I purchased was Super Bio Zin. I was trying hard to get something with adequate amounts of Methonine (3520mg), Biotin (22.7mg) and Zinc (13691 ppm)that could be purchased at the local feed store. While I believe she could gradually get acclimated to it, she's also become more lively. Since she is also ridden by my daughters (one who is learning to canter), I really don't want to see her more jazzed up.
FYI, the supplement also has Lysine (2,150mg), Calcium (7.2 mg), Salt (12%), Sulphur (890 mg), Copper (1369.4 ppm), Selenium (.4 ppm), Vitamin A (33,920 IU), Vitamin D3 (5,280 IU), Vitamin E (200 IU), Vitamin B (22.7 mg).

Any suggestions for an alternate Biotin supplement, (I'd like something with at least 25 mg Biotin).
Any ideas what ingredients in the product I purchased that could be jazzing her up? What I'm doing immediately is cutting her back to 1/2 dose.

Thanks for the input. Sandi
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Paskoj (Paskoj)
Posted on Tuesday, Jan 30, 2001 - 12:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I use Biotin Plus, which I order from KV Vet supply www.kvvet.com. It has 50 mg d-biotin/scoop plus l-methionine (not sure how much). I like the fact that they isolate the isomers because I believe that the body preferentially uptakes one isomer over the other. It smells like apples!
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM (Dro)
Posted on Wednesday, Jan 31, 2001 - 9:05 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Sandy, If you will try this: offer the food and if refused REMOVE the food containing supplement and skip that feeding I think you will find next feeding it will be alright. If not you can skip that feeding too. I have never seen a horse that went beyond its third skipped meal for just about anything.

Concerning the D vs L Methionine Joni, I am not sure about the different uptake but the body can only use the L form to make proteins. The reason that the D form appears in most mixtures is when the methionine is synthesized both D and L forms are made and then it is cheaper just to include both and appears to cause no harm. Important to understand when doing a cost analysis is that the L form should be considered twice as potent as the D/L mixtures.
DrO
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Sandi (Skeller)
Posted on Wednesday, Jan 31, 2001 - 10:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks for the advice. Dr. O, can I try that with my kids too? (it's amazing how much my horse has taught me about dealing with my kids also). I also had a great time browsing the KV Vet supply site. I really could spend a lot more than $35 there! Sandi
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