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Discussion on Sudden clubbiness
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Member:
Skye
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Posted on Friday, Jul 11, 2003 - 9:33 pm:
My 15-month old colt was trimmed 7 weeks ago. Five or 6 weeks later, a noticeable steepness appeared. The farrier was delayed a week but is now concerned. He has trimmed the colt and plans to put on glue-on shoes in a couple of days.
Does this sound like it might be caused by rapid growth?
Having read the article on this site, I'm wondering about cutting his grain back substantially. (He'll kill me!)
I'm guessing a vet needs to be in on this?
Radiographs?
Reasons! I need reasons! The colt was born with his mother's underslung heels, which the farrier rectified.
What's happening now and why?
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DrO
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2003 - 6:14 am:
Eleanor the article is full of reasons why this occurs and sometimes it seems to occur for no reasons one can figure. Yes your veterinarian needs to be involved to help you discover which of the reasons is affecting your horse so appropriate treatment can be applied. If no good reason is found and the problem bilateral I would consider the decrease plane of nutrition recommendations, be sure to follow the link in the article to flexural deformities for a complete explanation.
DrO
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Member:
Skye
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2003 - 10:36 am:
Yes, too many reasons--darn it! I was struck by the sudden onset and the unilateral nature. I've seen enough of these problems, usually genetic, that I think I went into panic mode, imagining surgery and stall rest and other difficult options.
If it's unilateral, then the decreased plane of nutrition wouldn't be of value, it seems?
Is it hard ground can cause this? His pasture is rock-hard clay.
Many thanks.
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DrO
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2003 - 11:13 pm:
Unilateral is probably not nutritional in origin but might respond somewhat to a nutritional treatment. Much depends on the rapidity of the change, the actual angles, the other findings in the exam, and your goals (again see the article). Unless you find a predisposing cause surgery may give you the best outcome.
DrO
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Member:
Skye
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Posted on Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 - 8:46 pm:
Dr. O. I'm getting a few different recommendations about how to decrease the plane of nutrition. One is to cut back his grain (Poulin Development) by half for 6-8 weeks.
The other is to gradually cut out the grain, replacing it with Poulin MVP Pellets for a similar time period.
I will try to upload an attachment showing their protein, fat, etc.
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Moderator:
DrO
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Posted on Friday, Jul 18, 2003 - 6:41 pm:
Eleanor, I am unable to open a MVP file.
DrO
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Member:
Skye
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Posted on Friday, Jul 18, 2003 - 9:47 pm:
You're very kind to try. This must be a Mac vs. Windows problem. I shall cut and paste the info in, then dissolve into infinite silence if it fails!
Equi-Pro Development
Crude protein (min) 14.%
Crude fat (min) 4.00%
Crude fiber (max) 8.00%
Calcium (min) 0.75%
Calcium (max) 1.05%
Phosphorous (min) 0.65%
Zinc (min) 160 PPM
Copper (min) 50 PPM
Vitamin A (min) 5600IU/lb
Selenium(min) 0,65PPM
MVP Pellett
Crude protein (min) 27.%
Crude fat (min) 4.00%
Crude fiber (max) 7.00%
Calcium (min) 3.00%
Calcium (max) 3.50%
Phosphorous (min) 1.70%
Zinc (min) 600 PPM
Copper (min) 200 PPM
Vitamin A (min) 25,000 IU/lb
Selenium 2.75PPM
MVP balances nutrient profiles of unfortified grains, allows for feeding program flexibility and use of bulk grains. A high quality source of minerals, vitamins, and protein, it’s pelleted for ease, accurate feeding and mixing. It is an excellent supplement for horses on hay and/or pasture.
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DrO
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Posted on Sunday, Jul 20, 2003 - 3:36 pm:
The MVP should be looked as a high protein supplement and can be plugged into the recommendation in the article on flexural deformities. Whether to decrease at once or over a fairly short period of time is fine, we do not know if it makes a difference.
DrO
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comparing development and MVP