Better information makes for healthier horses,
Horseadvice.com is where equine science and horse sense intersect.

Discussion on 3 yr old with severe arthritis

Use the navigation bar above to access articles and more discussions on this topic.
Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jane Sprouse
New Member
Username: Calajane

Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Our 3 year old quarterhorse has just been diagnosed with severe arthritis of the hock. The vet has injected steroids and recommended MSM and glucosamin, but he doesn't sound hopeful. We raised him from a foal, and the plan has always been just for light trail work, but we worry that he may not even be able to be trained for riding. Are things as gloomy as they seem? How does such a youngster end up with "severe arthritis?" (No sign of injury was found.) Suggestions? Thanks, Jane
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Robert N. Oglesby DVM
Moderator
Username: Dro

Post Number: 8940
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Thursday, Aug 14, 2003 - 7:33 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

As to prognosis, which of the 4 joints that make up the hock are showing signs of DJD on radiographs? Concerning the cause, what can you tell us about the training history of this horse?
DrO
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jane Sprouse
Member
Username: Calajane

Post Number: 2
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Friday, Aug 22, 2003 - 8:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I don't know which joint(s). I'll find out. As to training history, he's just been a backyard horse until recently. We've always done a lot of stuff with him - clicker training, round pen, teaching him not to be afraid of stuff - but nothing strenuous. He went to a trainer this summer and she began to worry about him soon after she began to work with him seriously. He's always been clumsy, and he broke his jaw as a foal. (Nobody iknows how it happened.) Could that be related? Some congenital weakness?
Jane
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Robert N. Oglesby DVM
Moderator
Username: Dro

Post Number: 8987
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Monday, Aug 25, 2003 - 7:27 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Not related.
DrO
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jane Sprouse
Member
Username: Calajane

Post Number: 3
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, Aug 26, 2003 - 4:32 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

More info. The vet summary said " Nuclear scintigraphy identified active bone in the right hock, consistent with DJD of the distal intertarsal and tarsometatarsal joints." Also "radiographs showed moderate DJD in the right distal hock joints and similar, but less extensive changes in the left hock."

The trainer says he seems to be able to handle light work so far, especially if she works him in straight lines instead of using the round pen. And then some folks say the joint should fuse and then he'll be OK. Still I worry. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jane
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Robert N. Oglesby DVM
Moderator
Username: Dro

Post Number: 9002
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Wednesday, Aug 27, 2003 - 6:47 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Jane check out the article » Equine Diseases » Lameness » Diseases of the Upper Rear Limb » Overview of Diseases of the Hock (Tarsus). It will discuss treatment and prognosis by the particular joint space involved. It also gives you links to more information on joint fusion.

Young horses that develop arthritis that have not been trained excessively often have a congenital instability in the joint, possibly OCD that is not radiographically evident. Rereading your posts I realize I have been making an assumption that your horse is lame and that it blocked out in the joint spaces you list above?
DrO
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jane Sprouse
Member
Username: Calajane

Post Number: 4
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, Aug 27, 2003 - 4:32 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'm not sure what "blocked out" means. If it refers to that test where they anesthetise different parts of the leg, I don't think it was ever completed because he got progressively lamer as the test progressed. (They originally suspected OCD of the stifle.) He's not currently lame, but gets stumbly as he tires. I'll check out the article. Thanks. Jane
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Robert N. Oglesby DVM
Moderator
Username: Dro

Post Number: 9009
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Thursday, Aug 28, 2003 - 6:59 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Since the source of the lameness was never localized, it is important to remember that the diagnosis of lameness and the prediction of future lameness from radiographic lesions alone is difficult: many sound horses have lesions. We have even less faith in the significance of a bone scan in unlocalized lameness. See also the article on Overview of Lameness Diagnosis for more on this.
DrO
Post a Message to this Discussion
Posting
Instructions:
Full Service Members may post to this discussion and should address the orignial poster's concerns or other information posted here. New questions about your horse should be started in a new discussion. Use the navigation bar at the top of this page to return to the parent article and review the article and existing discussions. If your question remains unanswered "Start a New Discussion", the link is under the list of discussions at the bottom of the article.
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username:
Password:
Options: Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:
Home Page | Todays Discussions | Search | Top of Page Administration
  http://www.horseadvice.com
is The Horseman's Advisor
Helping Thousands of Equestrians, Farriers, and Veterinarians Every Day
All rights reserved, © 2013
Horseadvice.com is a BBB Accredited Business. Click for the BBB Business Review of this Horse Training in Stokesdale NC