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SharonEP
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Username: elsa722

Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 1:46 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi - I was out for a regular trail ride today - horse is fit - and out of the blue she started sweating profusely. It was literally dripping from her face, neck, between her hind legs. I got off called a vet on the cell phone to meet me at trailer - and we ponied her out about 1 hour 15 minutes at a walk. She sweated like that for about 15 minutes or so - them we had serious case of the shakes when she stopped - but no colic signs - unlikely to tie up since she is in good shape and no changes in gait. She was in pain. By the time we got out she was fine. I thought she must have eaten something toxic - there was one branch she grabbed I've never seen her eat before. Vet said if she was better - then just bring her home - give her 10CC Banamine (IV) which he said I could give orally - I did - and she seems fine. Any ideas - it was pretty scary. How fast does a horse react if it has ingested a toxin? Someone suggest she could have been coming into heat - but I've never seen that before with her. She is 5 yrs old. I was also told that if you don't have Banamine for pain - horses can take 10 Tylenol??
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Post Number: 18501
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 8:06 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Sharon EP,
The problem with the toxin idea is what toxin would cause these symptoms? There is nothing I can think of that would cause simple profuse sweating after a single bite. Pain can cause a horse to sweat, then she became excessively cooled and began shivering? If you do not think her bowel or muscles were painful, what do you think was in pain? I would have liked to know her body temperature and seen a complete blood panel.

I have never seen any report on the safety or efficacy of Tylenol (acetaminophen) in horses but for some ideas on NSAID's and first aid treatment in horses see: Diseases of Horses » First Aid » First Aid Kit. And for more detailed discussions on NSAID use in horses see, Treatments and Medications for Horses » Anti-inflammatories (NSAID's, Steroids, Arthritis Rx).
DrO
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Christine Holmes Bukowski
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Username: canyon28

Post Number: 195
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 12:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I had a mare that I let eat a few mouthfuls from a grassy area at a rodeo I was at. That same night she began sweating and shaking and I had to blanket her. Over the next several weeks she stopped eating and started to get signs of photosynthesis. Her liver readings went almost off the charts when i had her blood pulled to confirm she had eated a toxic plant.
If I were you I would treat your mare as if she had been poisoned and keep her in a stall during the day and on pasture at night if possible. Also I had to put my mare on low protein grass hay only until her liver recovered, which it did after about 3 or 4 months. You vet can tell if she was poisoned by a blood test, which will show the abnormal liver readings. I hope it wasnt that, but it wouldnt hurt to be safe.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Post Number: 18509
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Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 7:10 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Christine,
Why would you treat her as a liver toxicity case since that is not clear: there is no history of exposure and there are many symptoms of liver poisoning that have not yet been described (jaundice).

You should note that a few mouthfuls of just about any toxic plant, much less that from a grassy area, would not cause liver toxicity and its secondry photo sensitivity so you should be aware that some other area or cause may have resulted in your liver problems.
DrO
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SharonEP
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Username: elsa722

Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:34 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you Dr O -
My mare is still doing fine - I rode yesterday in fact. I think now after discussion that maybe it was a quick bout of spasmotic colic - she did take a large poop on the trail - and improved after that. All horses are different and she didn't show the usual colic signs - no one on the ride with me thought colic - no real shortened walk, belly looking etc. She had a big pee back at the trailer, even though we tried to give her time to pee, we thought it was more important to get her to the vet at the trailer....some thought she was coming into season....but that was a lot of pain for that. Thanks for your help - I'm so relived that she is better!
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