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Sandra Austin
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 5
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, Feb 21, 2004 - 2:25 pm: |   |
I have a 9 yo arabian mare who gets painful when in heat. She cycles often but within normal range. She has had an extensive workup. The problem is the pain which results in 1)pain from other areas that results in abnormal motility and gas accumulation and then gas colic. I came up with the idea to use "Devils Claw plus" by Uckele which is an herbal intiinflamatory. Since the doctor just has me giving banamine shots when in pain. But I am not always at the barn to see she is in pain. so I thought the maintence dose would help to keep inflammation and pain away and work as a preventative. Do you see any harm in trying this? Thanks
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 9992
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Sunday, Feb 22, 2004 - 8:53 am: | |
Hello Sandra,
We have often discussed Devil's Claw run a search on it for our thoughts and other's experiences with the herb.
DrO |
Sandra Austin
Member
Username: Soda
Post Number: 6
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, Feb 22, 2004 - 10:21 am: | |
Thanks Dr. O. I guess I was also looking for any experience any one had trying it with painful cycles. It seems the other discussions are primarily on arthritsis. Thanks |
Alicia Kost
Member
Username: Aannk
Post Number: 306
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, Feb 23, 2004 - 12:23 pm: | |
Sandra,
My mare has painful heats too. Her's are caused by lumpy ovaries. I usually try to start her on Bute before her heat starts, and that works. If I don't start in time, she is in pain for about 2 days. I then have to use banamine. I am breeding her this year, and am looking forward to no pain for her!
Another way you can help is by stopping heat altogether. Depo provera worked for me on my mare. Not cheap, though.
Alicia |
Sandra Austin
Member
Username: Soda
Post Number: 7
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, Feb 24, 2004 - 8:18 pm: | |
Thanks Alicia. I tried aa hormone shot and a hormone implant,but they did not work. the banamine does the trick for the pain but I too can not always catch it in time.that is why I was thinking of using the dc as a preventative. she is a frequent cycler. She even has cycles in the winter! good luck on your breeding.
sandy
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Little King Ranch
Member
Username: Eoeo
Post Number: 32
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, Feb 25, 2004 - 10:00 am: | |
If you just want to stop the mare's heat cycles there is a procedure I read about that they are doing back east, I believe. They insert a glass marble 30mm big into the uterus and as long as it stays in there, the mare does not cycle. When you want her to cycle for breeding, the vet removes it. It sounded bizarre but the vet that wrote the paper said it does work. It might be worth a try. I am trying to find the article but haven't found it yet. We have a filly in race training that was nasty when she was in heat and so that is why I saved the article. We are going to try that on her. Anyone else see the write up on it? EO |
Sue Muehe
Member
Username: Qhsue
Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, Feb 25, 2004 - 6:56 pm: | |
I have talked online to a woman that had the marble (stainless) inserted in her mare last year and although it did not completely get rid of the mare's heat behavior, it lessened the symptoms enough to ignore them.
I also want to try this on my 14 yr QH mare. She gets unmanageable at times in the Spring/Early Summer due to her heat cycle. I trail ride and whe you live in Minnesota, you need to enjoy all riding days available. She can not settle down (for saddling or mounting)when she is at her worst in heat. At other times people comment on what a well behaved trail horse she is - not when in heat though. |
Little King Ranch
Member
Username: Eoeo
Post Number: 33
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, Feb 25, 2004 - 8:06 pm: | |
I know they discussed different ones and came to the conclusion that glass ones, 30mm in size had the best results. That, I do remember. EO |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
Moderator
Username: Dro
Post Number: 10012
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, Feb 26, 2004 - 8:30 am: | |
Run a search on "marble", you will find other discussions on this.
DrO |
