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KATHLEEN COVELL
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Username: Kcovell

Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Sunday, Aug 29, 2004 - 6:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

i purchased a barrel horse in 2002 at the end of 2003 she came up lame i took her to a vet i sometimes use and he did x-rays/nerve blocks after 3 hours i told him my horse had enough and he said he couldn't find anything wrong with her just give her bute and stay off her awhile (standard answer) my farrier suggested i take her to a very well respected vet who works on horses at a race track here & is a good leg man he did the nerve blocks/x-rays and found she has a navicular cyst we tried injections/shoeing, etc. to no avail i ended up having her nerved and she is fine now and on no drugs she has developed a hard knot on the place where one of the incisions was made (he used staples to close them and kept her 10 days) i have not been able to find anything on the symptoms of neuroma to see if this could be the start of it when i let her out in the pasture or ride her she always has bell boots on because her back foot will sometimes come foward and strike the back of the front foot does this sound like something i should worry about or call my vet and is there anywhere i can find info on neuroma & nav. cysts
thanks k
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Shirley A. Johnson
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Username: Shirl

Post Number: 139
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Sunday, Aug 29, 2004 - 8:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Kathleen, I'm no expert but my horse had a partial neurectomy years ago and the neuroma (which she didn't get, but it is feared with the procedure) is very, very painful. You would definitely know if it were a neuroma. From what I've been told it is worse than the navicular itself. Hope this releives your mind some. The knot you describe could be scar tissue, but perhaps Dr. O can help further. Good luck, Shirl
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 11094
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Monday, Aug 30, 2004 - 9:26 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Kathleen,
Shirley is correct: neuromas are painful even before they can be felt so this knot is not a problem from this standpoint. For more information on neuroma, navicular cysts, and interference I would run a search on each of the terms as we have discussed these before. Interference problems, including forging, has its own topic, see Care for Horses Hoof Care Hoof Care Topics Not Covered Above Foot Interference Problems. Radiographic changes of the navicular bone are discussed at Equine Diseases Lameness Diseases of the Hoof Navicular Disease / Syndrome. Cysts however are not problems that lend themselves to general discussion: the devil is always in the details. If you will give us a complete description of the cyst perhaps we can provide more direction.
DrO
PS Kathleen it is difficult to read posts without proper punctuation and capitalization, so some skip them. You will find you get more responses if you will take the time to do this.
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Hilma Beuchert
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Username: Dakotab

Post Number: 6
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Our Tenn walker is navicular and is so stiff coming out of his stall. But he walks it out in about 20 min. But if he stands for 1/2 hour he is stiff again. The vet had him on Soloxine, Isoxsuprine and Bute for three weeks then off for a week but when he got bad again he went back on for 3 more weeks. We gave him bute twice a day then as he stayed sound reduced it gradually to every three days. Then to once a week, but that is not enough. How often can I give him bute with out it effecting his gut? I also noticed he was no way as stiff in the winter when he was out in the snow. Do you think he would benefit from cold boots?
I have had him on navicular saver for about 6 mo. I cannot see where it is doing him any good. has anyone used this product on their horse?
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 15756
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Thursday, Jun 1, 2006 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Hilma,
You will find information on the long term use of bute and other possible antiinflammatories at, Equine Medications and Nutriceuticals » Anti-inflammatories (NSAID's, Steroids, Arthritis Rx).

Instead of posting into Kathleen's discussion you will post a new one I will be glad to answer your other questions, please include the list of ingredients of the navicular treatment you are using. A good place to post this would be Equine Diseases » Lameness » Diseases of the Hoof » Navicular Disease / Syndrome. You will see the post new discussion link at the bottom of the page.
DrO
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