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Discussion on Run or Jump? Potentially compromised broodmare
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ekaufman
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Posted on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 - 10:12 pm:
Looking for help and advice on a "situation." I've been offered a chance to purchase a well-bred 10yo "broodmare" from some folks who are getting out of breeding.
The mare has produced 2 good foals, youngest of which is now 3. She failed to get in foal 2 years ago to a stallion with known potency problems. A year ago she was sold, failed to take, and returned open with a uterine infection. I've requested but not yet seen culture and biopsy reports.
I initially offered to buy the horse for her value as a trail mount (very low here), and then pay additionally when/if she confirmed in foal, and delivered a live foal.
They agreed in principle, but we are having problems agreeing on a contract. They can't be bothered to breed her themselves with their own stallion(s), but also can't accept how questionable her value is open.
I wonder if anyone has any advice either on a model that has worked, or on how far/fast I should run from this deal. She is potentially an excellent addition to my program, but also could make a handy and expensive doorstop.
Looking for some HA wisdom. Thanks!
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paardex
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Posted on Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 - 4:35 am:
As she is only ten years of age if you get her going she will have enough years to be a good mare for you. I've frequently taken on such mares for free but with the restriction the former owner got the first living foal back. Perhaps an idea?
Jos
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DrO
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Posted on Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 - 6:50 am:
The situation you set up Elizabeth, "purchase the mare and then pay extra when in foal" is legally a tough situation. You either own or do not own the mare and the rest is most likely a "gentleman's agreement". It may be possible to rig a legally binding contract that supports this position but much better is to make a settled deal and if a price you are willing to pay cannot be agreed on no need to run, just a polite "no thank you" will do.
DrO
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Member:
canter
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Posted on Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 - 7:14 am:
Elizabeth, have you had your vet do a reproductive exam? Perhaps this would answer some questions so that you could make a better informed decision?
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ekaufman
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Posted on Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 - 9:53 am:
Thanks everyone. The horse is 1500 miles away, so my vet can't examine her. She agrees with Dr. O.
I suppose I wouldn't buy a TB with a clause for additional payment if the horse turned out to be as fast as the seller claimed he might be.
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paardex
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Posted on Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 - 10:49 am:
We did in a way [buying young stallions with another payment if approved] and gladly payed the few times it was necessary. Good for both parties.
But Dr. O is right it never was written down always a gentle[wo]mans agreement with someone we knew and trusted and vice versa.[same with the living foal construction]
With people with whome I need a contract I dare not take the risk of problems.[fi. what if the horse dies before she has given a foal etc.]
Jos
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