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Lynn
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Username: lbystrom

Post Number: 48
Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Friday, Apr 25, 2008 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi:

Okay, does anyone have any ideas? This is our yearling colt......noticed a flat appearing mass on BooBoo's chest about a week ago. Kept an eye on things, as I didn't recall, nor did it look like he injured himself. Not off his feed; no fever; acting like a normal yearling. Over the course of this week, it's grown dramatically, and is now about the size of a tennis ball. The skin can be moved over the mass, and it's firm to touch. He seems to have no pain. In reading the articles provided, I would've guessed a lipoma, but I see they're very uncommon in horses. I'm almost afraid to ask......we lost a mare last year to lymphosarcoma.
boo chest

boo chest side

I had planned to have the vet out for gelding, once we can get some dry weather, but maybe I should be getting her out sooner???

Thanks for any input.

Lynn
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Sara Wolff
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Posted on Friday, Apr 25, 2008 - 10:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

We once had a mare that got pigeon fever and she had a lump in that same spot. I guess there's no chance it could be a hematoma from a kick or bump?
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Lynn
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Post Number: 49
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Posted on Friday, Apr 25, 2008 - 11:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks, Sara! Initially when I saw the smaller lump, I thought he got bumped, but then thought I'd just keep an eye on things because there was no signs of any trauma. He also has had no discomfort when it was palpated.

A friend also mentioned pigeon fever....he's not been off feed, or febrile.....seems to be acting just fine. Would the skin move over the lump in pigeon fever? Maybe I should be doing a search on that.

Thanks again,
Lynn
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Ann
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 - 12:15 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

My horses pigeon fever lumps were more off set then this one.. and it really looked like a pigeon's chest , the big bowed lump..
Also my horses never went off feed or developed a fever.. but when the abscess broke open.. yuck.. a huge hole was there with tons of draining and me flushing.. :-(

On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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Lynn
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Post Number: 50
Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 - 12:22 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you for your input, Ann! Maybe I'll start hot packing it in the morning. Read articles on Pigeon Fever, so thanks for pointing me in that direction!

Lynn
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Sara Wolff
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 - 12:34 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Our mare never showed any other symptoms either, except she did develop another bump slightly below the first one. If I remember right, the bump felt hard but the skin did move, like it would over a cyst. Ann's right, tons of drainage and it seemed like I was flushing and treating for weeks. Had to keep the horse isolated, too, which was difficult. Good luck!
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Lynn
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Post Number: 51
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 - 8:54 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Sara!
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Lee
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Posted on Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 - 11:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

You said that the skin can be moved over the mass, but can you move the mass itself? Is it warmer than the surrounding area? Can you press it and leave an indentation?

Sure looks like a bump from a kick. Does it feel like fluid or a hard mass?
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Post Number: 20544
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 27, 2008 - 8:12 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Lynn,
As noted already in the posts the lump above could be due to many causes and the first step not only requires noting its appearance but also many of the tactile senses as well. I agree that noting the history and the description that trauma and a subsequent pocket of induration and serum (fluid and cellular infiltrate) is very likely but I cannot be sure of that. Rarely is such a lump an emergency but if it is continuing to enlarge or worsen in any way you should have your veterinarian out to look at this.
DrO
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Lynn
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Post Number: 52
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 27, 2008 - 11:18 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Lee.......Thanks Dr. O.

For all its worth, the skin can be moved around this mass, but I'm unable to move the mass itself. It feels like a hard mass.....he elicits no pain response when I palpate it. Still not off any feed.....no fever....very normal yearling. Will give the vet a call in the morning and see when she can come check it out. We'd like to geld him once our weather dries up, but should probably know what this is prior to doing the gelding. Thanks again!

Lynn
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Lee
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Posted on Sunday, Apr 27, 2008 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

You'll figure it out Lynn!! Is there any heat? Best of luck!!
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Muffi Delaney
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I had a pigeon fever thing once on one of my horses - came looking like a hemotoma - lump. More on the side not smack in the middle of the chest like yours. Anyway we kind of figured it was Pigeon fever.
I took hot wet cloths and soaked it so it would "come to a head" and pop. it did eventually - but never at any time did the Horse go off his feed, or seem affected in any other way. It's highly contagous though so make sure the baby is not near others - but then once they get it they won;t get it again!
best of luck with it - get your vet there.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Post Number: 20574
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Posted on Thursday, May 1, 2008 - 7:49 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Let me correct one thing Muffi says. Pigeon Fever is not considered contagious from horse to horse. But contamination of the environment with more organisms is believed to cause the disease to persist and allow reinfection of other horses.
DrO
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Muffi Delaney
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Post Number: 240
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Posted on Thursday, May 1, 2008 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Oh yes you are absolutely right. I guess I just wanted to point out that others are susceptible to the infection due to FLIES, those nasty carriers can carry it between horses.
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Lynn
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Username: lbystrom

Post Number: 53
Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Thursday, May 1, 2008 - 8:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks so much for the information. I have the vet coming out on Monday, so hopefully we can get some answers, or at least an aspirate/biopsy. The lump has not increased for a few days now, so hopefully it's nothing more than a hematoma that will resolve. Thank you for your time and posts!!!

Lynn
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