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Scott Fouch
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 3-2000
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 7, 2005 - 1:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have sold a yearling gelding to an individual that wants to have his vet x-ray for OCD as a precaution. He will only return the yearling if OCD is indicated. If there are any other problems the sale is still final. My question is how conclusive are the x-rays? I don't want to get into a situation where his vet says there is OCD and my vet says there isn't.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 13074
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 7, 2005 - 6:19 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

You could agree to a third party tie breaker using a radiologist at the closest veterinary teaching institution. However you should be aware that some OC lesions are not clinically significant: they are there but don't cause lameness. These are usually in areas that don't receive a lot of wear or deep enough to not effect function. If you whole body radiograph this horse you may be able to find such a lesion.
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dina
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Username: Paix

Post Number: 53
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 - 6:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dr O,

Im selling a 3.5 y/o Andalusian stallion. the buyer had their vet do a prepurch exam including xrays.

The vet said (this is third party paraphrase...sigh):

On both hocks he has slightly flat areas in roughly the same location on both sides. No lesions - no fragments. this mightbe something u see in an older horse. There is "minimal" fluid at the stifle. Mostly the kind of fluid you wld see in a horse in training (which he is).

He mentioned possible OCD.

Might you direct me in the types of Qs to ask abt this examination so I can investigate further and if I need to be alarmed and/or treating my horse?

He has never been lame. He responds well to training - loves it - loves to be out and about working.

Im at a loss and hope to not lose this buyer since its a great home for him. Ive had offers from less desirable homes. The buyer wants him for breeding (AI only) and western pleasure show for herself and her young daughter.

Ive read ur articles and looked at all the radiographs. From wht the vet said, he doesnt shwo anything like wht Im looking at on the posted radiographs. It just seems that OCD is not predictable from the radiographs.

I know, without ur looking at them, its impossible to say ANYTHING specific. But pointing me in the right direction for Qs and more research wld help tremendously!

thanks!!!
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Ann
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Username: Lilly

Post Number: 122
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Saturday, Feb 18, 2006 - 7:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Do you have a digital camera? I have found that digital cameras take a pretty good picture of a radiograph that can then be posted for Dr.O to see. I did it with my horse. You just have to fiddle with the flash a little.

Ann
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 14850
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Diana what your really need is a knowledgeable radiologist/equine orthopedic surgeon team with to review the radiographs. At your expense, ask to have them sent to a radiologist of your veterinarians choosing for a second opinion. It would be irresponsible for a vet to throw out the OCD word with no evidence.
DrO
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dina
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Username: Paix

Post Number: 54
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, Feb 19, 2006 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

thank you! I SOOO needed to have that guidance. That is exactly what I will do.

Have a good day, all.
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