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Corinne Meadows
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Username: Corinne

Post Number: 62
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 - 9:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

My grey horse Demetrius has had numerous chunks of hair on his neck and jaw removed (by nipping) during play with his pasture mates (he is not the dominate one in the herd however he can instigate some play himself) He also has chunks of his long beautiful mane being ripped out with these playful nips. They are not ring worm and are defiantly bites because there are teeth marks and sometimes blood.
Is there anything I can do to help prevent this, or an agent I can use to facilitate hair re-regrowth on these spots as we are heading to a dressage clinic soon and I hope to have him looking his best.
I inquired with the vet about using bitter apple on his neck and cheeks (the rest of him is covered with a flysheet or blanket so he is only receiving bites on his neck and cheeks). and he said it would be fine, so we applied it with our hands. It worked for a while but I think the other horses have grown accustomed to it.
He is mostly white and bald spots are black and they are rather unbecoming. We use chalk and spray for shows but can't use that all the time...and frankly I don't care about bald spots unless we are going anywhere.
There is no other turnout situation so the boys are always going to play.
This may be the most ridiculous question you have ever heard and I couldn't find information on it in other postings but can I use topical Rogaine on the bald spots to help the hair regrow? Or is there something for animal hair regrowth that would not harm him?

Anyway information you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Dr O.

v/r
Corinne
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Fran C
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Username: Canter

Post Number: 326
Registered: 1-2000
Posted on Monday, Oct 24, 2005 - 8:41 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corinne,
My gray mare gets a few of these black spots from nips quite frequently...drives me nuts but horses will be horses and none of the damage is really serious. After making sure the bites are clean, I apply Corona cream to them. I don't think it helps grow the hair more quickly, but I do find that when I apply the cream, there are never any scars.

I would stay away from the Rogaine. Before you could buy it Over the Counter, it was a prescription drug. Like all drugs, there is a potential for side effects and I wouldn't want to take the chance.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 13970
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Monday, Oct 24, 2005 - 9:04 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I agree with Fran and don't think the Rogaine helpful where the follicles are healthy. Since you cannot stay with them all day long I don't know how to correct such play behavior and the only think I can think of would be to separate them. Some have reported on the board that the remote controlled equine shock collars have been helpful for aggressive behavior in the pastures.
DrO
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Corinne Meadows
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Username: Corinne

Post Number: 63
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Monday, Oct 24, 2005 - 10:09 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello all. The Rogaine was just a curiocity....will definately use corona, great suggestion.
As for the shock collar, a huge percheron, who has always been friends with my horse moved in on Sat. Perhaps he will be the shock collar for the overly playful ones....and maybe even mine if he gets out of line while playing.

Thanks!

P.S. I read your profile this weekend Dr O. Having been an air force officer for the last eight years I can say I really agree with your quote.....Find the truth first....It is a good one.....I personally live with integrity in all I say and do.
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Shelley
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Username: Sswiley

Post Number: 78
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, Oct 24, 2005 - 3:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

What is it with these horses !
I have a beautiful Bay mare that got chomped by her mom and now I have this bright white haired spot right on her rump. If the white parts would just stay white and the brown stay brown. Is that too much to ask .. . . . .
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Corinne Meadows
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Username: Corinne

Post Number: 64
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Monday, Oct 24, 2005 - 7:56 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Shelley,
Luckily, if it's true that injured wounds yield white hair with regrowth then we have no problem because most of him is white.
I checked on him today...no new chomps....I think his percheron buddy is protecting him....either that or the other horses are so interested in the new pasture mate that they don't care about chomping on Demetrius. I suggest Percheron Prophylaxis for prevention of chomped caused bald spots!
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Corinne Meadows
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Username: Corinne

Post Number: 65
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Monday, Oct 24, 2005 - 8:00 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

P.S. and for increased whiteness on his face...I keep trying to tell him that Poo pillows (while warm)aren't the way to go.....he begs to differ and finds one every night!
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Shelley
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Username: Sswiley

Post Number: 80
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, Oct 24, 2005 - 10:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Poo pillows . . . . .!
That is too funny. I need to tell my daughter that one !
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Gigi Hugo
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Username: Ginger1

Post Number: 13
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 - 11:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'm sure this will sound really crazy, but a very popular old fashion southern practice is to use bacon grease on hairless places on a horse for hair regrowth. I've seen boarders with strained bacon grease from home in mason jars stashed in the tack room. Don't know if there's anything to it, but they stand by it.

Gigi
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Corinne Meadows
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Username: Corinne

Post Number: 66
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 - 2:11 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Wow....laughing at that one. My husband is southern and I have often been ridiculed for wanting to throw out the bacon fat or grease from cooking. But apparently you can use it over...and over....and over....Not something we typically do in NJ. Anyway I think that idea can benefit everyone involved. I get a nice breakfast prior to dealing with day to day issues at the barn and he gets some possible hair regrowth on bites... I can't say I have eaten any bacon fat but do you think it's tasty enough to make another horse more likely to nibble on him?
I am willing to try anything that obviously isn't harmful, to get those hairless spots to grow back. Once his winter coat is in....does it keep growing or do we have to wait until his summer coat comes it to expect regrowth?
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