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Wayne Crews
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Username: Jcrews

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Posted on Sunday, May 7, 2006 - 10:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

My horse has been sick for some time.
Yes he has been at the vets, and they have sent him home to "ripen" per say. I have done everything I can think of to get this abscess to bust. The one on the left has busted but I can't seem to get the one on the right to bust. I have done the hot packs and etc.
Do you have any advice? This abscess has been there at least 3 weeks.
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Wrews
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Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Anyone have any ideas?
I have done hot packs,
DMSO
Icthamal
ginger hot sweats
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Holly Wood
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Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 11:42 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Lancing is done in some cases. What does the vet say?
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Wrews
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Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

it isn't ready to lance
I am trying to get it to form a head.
so we can lance it
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Patricia Bell
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Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Please whatever you do watch it carefully. My QH had an abscess pop a month ago under his chin only to have one grow on the side of his head. I had an emergency vet out on Saturday to lance it, it was heading inward instead of to the surface. He had to cut in an inch (at least) to get all that gunk out and there was just huge amounts of pus. I could have lost him, the vet said. It was heading toward some cavity (medical term). By the way, DR. O, my TB had this strangles in March and has recovered really well, does this mean I can't breed her this year? I have her and the QH separated right now but the vet said the property was going to need 6 months to become safe. Would it affect her fetus?
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Wrews
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Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 3:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Patricia...
that is what I am trying to get accomplished, but the vets are saying that it isn't ripe enough to lance yet and if you lance without it being ripe you run the risk of it spreading.
I am continuing the hot packs. Hoping Dr. Robert will see this and give me some great advice on how to get these to Ripen.
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Patricia Bell
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Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Strangles is absolutely the PITS. Good luck to you! We are flushing, flushing and more flushing. He's on a little Bute too. He seems to be feeling a lot better after the lancing. This particular abscess wasn't going to ripen. It was behind his ear and jaw so big he had a hard time turning his head.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 5:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Wrews, in time it will either ripen or I have even seen these that went down without bursting. How sure are you that this is Strangles related and is he currently showing any other signs of illness and is he on antibiotics or other medications?

Patricia, it is unlikely this will have any effect on a pregnancy at this point.
DrO
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Wrews
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Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

thanks everyone!
Yes it was cultured positive for strangles
I just got back once again from the vets and he was able to lance it and give him some relief.
Thanks again for this great board!
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Lee
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Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 12:44 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Wrews: So glad you were able to finally get it lanced. Just wanted to caution you not to use DMSO in the presence of infection. DMSO is a solvent that can take an infection deeper into the tissues and cause it to spread. It sure does work great on bruises and arthritis, though!
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Wrews
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Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 1:17 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

thanks Lee!
It was Auburn University Vets that did the DMSO...
I thought that about the DMSO and the infection but I wasn't sure
Thanks for the info
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 7:00 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I remain uncertain that DMSO will drive infection deeper. Though it has this property with chemicals this is quite a bit different than driving bacteria deeper into tissues.
DrO
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Lee
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I understand perfectly and can see the uncertainty. In 1991, I spread a minor infection from a small wood splinter under my fingernail while applying DMSO bare handed.....perhaps it was the division of 2 different types of tissue and a path already existed. At any rate - forget about reprimanding me...the MD's were exquisite at that. But I still use the stuff!! With gloves, that is, and I have to say, never in the presence of infection.....on the horse OR ME. ( pssstt...don'ttelltheMD'sIstilluseit)
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