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Chris Imirziadis (Dispisti)
Posted on Saturday, Aug 26, 2000 - 9:42 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have a beautifully bred 3yo filly burning up the gallops under Lasix. Once she's off medication she will visually bleed even after a sharp 2f gallop. Lasix is banned this side of the Atlantic. Does anyone know of any alternative treatment or long term therapy. It's just so frustrating.
Thanks, Chris.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM (Dro)
Posted on Monday, Aug 28, 2000 - 5:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Chris,
I do not know of any other medication that is effective. I believe I would recommend you allow the filly to age a little with pasture rest: the tissues will become stronger as she matures and it will give the damaged tissues time to properly heal. 6 months would be a minimum.
DrO
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Duane Youngwirth
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Username: Annie1

Post Number: 1
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Thursday, Jul 7, 2005 - 7:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello, What do you know about feeding vitiam k in a powder form in horses feed that are bleeder?
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 13305
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Friday, Jul 8, 2005 - 9:31 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Vitamin K1 can be absorbed orally however in the horse that is not vitamin K deficient no amount of supplementation will prevent or even decrease bleeding. This is both a well established physiological fact and has been shown experimentally in EIPH horses (bleeders). Note that K3 can be quite toxic when given by injection even at recommended dosages, I am uncertain as to how well it is absorbed orally in horses but should not be used.

Save your money for more useful diagnostic and therapy. The article associated with this forum explains EIPH and does give recommendations on treatment and management, click on » Exercise Induced Pulmonary Hemmorage, EIPH » at the top of this page for more.
DrO
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Angel Roberts
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Username: Angelvet

Post Number: 7
Registered: 5-2005
Posted on Friday, Jul 8, 2005 - 1:19 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I agree with Dr O here. Many of my racetrack clients use the oral Vitamin K routinely on horses they feel bleed. I honestly have never noticed a difference in performance, nor have I found it effective in reducing bleeding. If you have a horse that is bleeding, as evidenced by endoscopic exam post race or work, bloodwork and, or BAL exams should be done to rule out respiratory problems. Then start looking for other causes,such as lameness, cardiac problems,ulcers,shoeing,fitness,etc,etc.Often times, EIPH is more a symptom of an apparently unrelated problem, and takes some detective work to localize.
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