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moon
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 1, 1999 - 4:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dr. O
I found out that a horse that I had on my property for about a month died about 6 months ago. The owners had her hauled off with no firm diagnosis. evidently later another horse started getting sick, loosing weight, diareaha, etc. They spent thousands in testing with one vet that turned up nothing in the soil or manure of the horses, dogs, or chickens. Well I understand that she tried another vet who did an intestinal biopsy on one horse and said that the test had about a 65% accuracy rateing and that the problem was Cronic Salmonilla. She then put ALL her animals down and was told by the vet that her property is contaminated, all the carcasses are contaminated and must be burnt and burried (illeagle in our county). She was further told that all her property had to have the the top soil removed and her barn had to be dismantled and burned as well! To top that off that vet said that this filly was the one who brought it?!?

Does this sound extreme?
My horses have shown no porblems, should I be worried?
Could this have been from her place and the filly was just the first to die because of her age/stress level?

I am really concerned but I just don't think this filly caused this... But I know right now she is trying to figure out a way to burn a pile of horse, dog, and chicken carcases!

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moon
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 1, 1999 - 9:30 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Update:
Through much fretting and phone calling, I ended
up with the States Ag Department Head Vetrinarian.
To make a long story short he eased my fears over
problems with my horses and the likelyhood of this
filly causing it. He also firmed up some things I
had heard about the vet that told her to do this
(destroy all the animals). I was explaining the
situation, not using names when I told him of the
diagnosis and he laughed and said "Who was the
vet? Dr. So-n-So? He has a way of doing that to
people." He said he's never seen a farm
depopulated due to Salmonilla, yo just treat w/
antibiotics. I would still be intersted in
anything you might have to add, but I am
considerably less frazzled, I only wish she had
gotten another opionion befor she destroyed
horses, dogs, and chickens.

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Administration
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 2, 1999 - 7:26 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well,
You cannot treat Salmonella very well. It develops resistance to antibiotics quickly and is persistant in the environment. However you can isolate salmonella from a large portion of the healthy horse population so if you put every horse down with Salmonella we would have nothing to ride. The whole things seems very bizzare. I have never heard of putting down otherwise healthy animals just because they have been exposed to salmonella.
DrO
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moon
Posted on Wednesday, Jun 2, 1999 - 12:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Bizzar is not the word... This type of action is not uncommon for the vet that is involved. He has gotten himself quite a reputation around here, he is known for having the attituted that he "knows exsactly what the problem is and this is what you do, end of discussion" yet he dosen't look at the broader picture or even the possiblity that he could be wrong.

The plot thickens though, there are now several gov agencies involved in trying to intervien with this woman. Hopefully they can prevent further destruction of her animals as she goes off half cocked. What got me is that two vets befor this did tests for salmonilla in the soil, feed, barn, etc and found nothing! And now she is ready to put a horse down??? I guess I might be a bit impressionable and ready to accept any answer no matter how bizzar if I had spend near $6000 in testing and found nothing.
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nina sala
Posted on Saturday, Jun 5, 1999 - 4:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'm just heartsick at reading this thread. I was looking through the postings for something to help my friend who is boarding a horse at a stable where one horse has died and another is sick from what may be salmonella. I was shocked to see that a vet would have someone "put down" an entire population of a farm for this. The two horses involved here were both sent to the state University Vet School, so maybe we'll have something more positive to add to the thread pretty soon. Meanwhile, I am off to seek more information about the condition itself.
Nina
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moon
Posted on Sunday, Jun 6, 1999 - 12:35 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well to update; the Vetrinarian for the Department
of Agriculture tried to contact his lady. She has,
to put it in nice terms, gone off the deep end.
She is threatening all of the governing athorities
that if they try to stop her from burning this
"Pile of contaminated carcuses" she would bring in
the media because according to her there is a wide
spread cover up of contamination in our area. Can
we say NUT CASE! The Dr. with Dept of Ag then
decided to go talk to this ladies vet in hopes of
talking sence in to one of them or find out where
a breakdown in communication happened. This has
been like a a really cheesey novel.

Nina- I certainly hope that they do find better
news at the vet hospital. I think the case here is
a lady who is broke, distraught, and a touch on
the emotional side. Please let us know what
happens. I'll be intrested to see what happens
with this if you have raltional vet and client.

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