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stenella
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Username: Stenella
Post Number: 26
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, Oct 14, 2006 - 12:51 am: |   |
I'm confused, I read that corn oil may help prevent NSAID caused ulcers, but my understanding is that grains, such as corn, are not good for the gut, causing gas and acid?
I've completed an overly conservative readministration of the gastrogard protocol, (2 months Gastrogard, now on 1/2 dose).
I want to know if, and how, I can or should give bute, should the need arise? The last thing i want is to cause any adverse effects to his recovery. |
Aileen
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Username: Sunny66
Post Number: 1423
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 - 10:15 pm: | |
Hi Stenella,
I give my horse 1/4 tube of ulcerguard when I give him bute, just in case... my two cents  |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 16862
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Monday, Oct 16, 2006 - 6:35 am: | |
Stenella both corn grain and NSAID's have been given to millions and millions of horses without causing gastric ulcers so the concern should not be an overriding one. Concerning corn oil it is not the same as feeding corn grain when it comes to the acidifying nature of the stomach, see the article on ulcers for more on this. Concerning bute administration see, Treatments and Medications for Horses » Anti-inflammatories (NSAID's, Steroids, Arthritis Rx) » Phenylbutazone (Bute) for recommendations on bute administration.
DrO |
Hally
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Username: Hally
Post Number: 51
Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, Oct 16, 2006 - 3:09 pm: | |
Just as a matter of interest Stenella, my EPSM horse get 2.5 cups of oil a day and has never had any issues. |
Christina jones
New Member
Username: phstable
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 - 2:58 pm: | |
I highly recommend Equioxx as an alternative to Bute- we have switched our horses over to it, and have found positive pain-relieving results without the harsh effect on the stomach!! |
Grace
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Username: gr8care
Post Number: 23
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 - 3:05 pm: | |
I TOTALLY agree with Christina about the Equioxx. We have had great results with it and no indications of hardship to the tummy. |
3chip
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Username: 3chip
Post Number: 8
Registered: 1-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 - 3:14 pm: | |
Equioxx does a fair job but it is simply to expensive. Especially if you are going to use it long range. As far as Bute is concerned, if you are feeding hay or on pasture the incidences of ulcers is very low. Ulcers seem to be caused by two issues working in unison, stress related activities and feeds other than hay or pasture. I have a mare who has received 1gm of bute morning and evening for 10 months now and she is fine. I have had other horses receive similar dosages for shorter periods but have never had any known ulcers in any of them. Low stress levels and always hay and/or pasture. |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: dro
Post Number: 22425
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, Feb 24, 2009 - 6:44 pm: | |
In the article on firocoxib the efficacy and safety are compared in a large study involving hundreds of horses. In the discussion section of our article on firocoxib other members give some ideas on reducing the cost this NSAID.
30 years of using bute almost daily and on rare occasions way above the recommended doses and times (one pony on high doses for 4 years) and I have not seen a single toxic reaction likely to be attributed to the phenybutazone. For more on this see the article on phenylbutazone. Both of these articles can be found in Treatments and Medications for Horses » Anti-inflammatories (NSAID's, Steroids, Arthritis Rx).
DrO |
