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kayla block
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Username: kaylab

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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 12:19 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I just read the article on IM Adequan. My vet just recommended it. The article seems to indicate that only IA Adequan has any effect.

Am I reading this incorrectly?

Why is there no adequan type product for humans? I take glucosamine/chondroitin orally and it's been hugely helpful to me. It took about 2 months to start working. Is it that time lag that is causing the vet to recommend Adequan?
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 6:51 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello kayla,
Though I cannot speak to the human medical field or what your veterinarian intentions, the article explains what we currently know about Adequan. You should note that "lack of evidence" is not the same as does not work though where an effect has been looked for it does suggest if there is a effect it is hard to find.
DrO
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kayla block
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Are animal medicines not put through double blind studies for safety and effectiveness?
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Rodney D
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 1:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Are you sure the article didn't say that IA effectiveness is quicker and shows better results? Either way, for my money, I believe Legend (Map 5, Hycoat, etc) IV are much more effective and less expensive than adequan. If your vet only carries the namebrand Legend, ask him if he can order Hycoat or Map 5 instead. It's ususally $5-$10 cheaper per shot for the non-name brand Legend.
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kayla block
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 3:03 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Legend means either:
- my vet needs to come out regularly
- I need to learn to give iv shots

Legend isn't im, as far as I know.

As for the Adequan -- it said im doesn't have evidence of effectiveness
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Rodney D
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 3:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Kayla,

I would have someone at your barn show you how to give and IV injection. When I say I could teach a six year old to give an IV injection, I'm not exaggerating. As long as you rub down the area with alcohol and know how to modify blood flow with pressure, it's very simple. Once you do it once, you'll be good to go.

As for Adequan, I think saying it lacks "evidence of effectiveness" is a bit surprising. However, I do know that Legend is much more effective than Adequan. Another good medication for IV or IA injection is Polyglycan.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 - 8:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Kayla, there are many ways that a medication can get approval for use and sometimes it based on a simple logical explanation combined with proof of safety. You can look up Adequan's application to the FDA and read the information submitted.

Rodney the situation with IV hyaluronate, no matter the source, is much the same with conflicting clinical reports and a lack of scientific work to show a specific effect. You can read more about this in the articles on this subject in this section.
DrO
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