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Stacy Upshaw
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Username: 36541
Post Number: 430
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 10:35 am: |   |
Hi Dr. O. Can the injectable banamine be fed thru, or mixed with applesauce for oral administration. If so, is there a dose adjustment? Thanks, Stacy |
Diane E.
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Username: scooter
Post Number: 3596
Registered: 9-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 9:02 pm: | |
Stacy, I have given injectable banamine orally, the dosage is the same as if you were giving it IV. I wouldn't mix it with anything tho, horses HATE the taste of it and would be more likely to spit it out when mixed. |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: dro
Post Number: 22214
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 - 8:16 am: | |
DianeE has it right: no dose adjustment.
DrO |
Ann
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Username: dres
Post Number: 2156
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 - 10:10 am: | |
How long does it take to show effect? Does the injectable last longer on the shelf? Would you use it orally for colic if advised to give banamine? .. Can it be used IM? how long to effect that way..?
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Diane E.
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Username: scooter
Post Number: 3600
Registered: 9-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 - 3:51 pm: | |
Ann it seemed to take 15-20 mins FME. Injectable needs to be kept in the fridge I think, you can only buy it by the bottle unless your vet will pull a syringe for you, the date should be noted on the bottle and written on the syringe. I used it for colic and it worked fine. IV seems to work almost immediately...not sure about IM, don't give it that way have had to many big lumps from it, there is research that says IM banamine can cause closridial infection (I think that's it) Tho I don't think Dr.O. agrees with this, I know my vet does and will not give banamine IM. |
Stacy Upshaw
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Username: 36541
Post Number: 432
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, Jan 29, 2009 - 9:25 pm: | |
Diane, how did you give it? Syringe with applesauce or non-salmonella peanut butter? I'd like to be able to give non-horsing husband a way to treat pain and/or fever from something like an abscessed foot if I am not home to give IV. |
Diane E.
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Username: scooter
Post Number: 3607
Registered: 9-2000
| | Posted on Friday, Jan 30, 2009 - 6:44 am: | |
Stacy I just left it in the syringe as is and squirted the liquid in..they are less likely to spit it out that way.
They do make a paste for oral application too (didn't know if you knew this, that is what I leave for non-horsey hubby) He did have to use it once and had no problems. Mine will spit the paste out more readily than the liquid tho. I always follow up with some sort of treat because they do HATE it! |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: dro
Post Number: 22222
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Friday, Jan 30, 2009 - 8:28 am: | |
Storage and expiration will depend on the formulation so the rules on the bottle should always be followed. In the products I have used room temperature is fine. Onset of action is hard to answer because it may depend on which action. What we do know is that no matter how it is given it is rapidly absorbed even when given orally.
For colic given IV or IM I would give it 15 to 30 minutes before judging efficacy. I don't recommend it orally but if it was used that way at least an hour I would say.
Concerning clostriadial infections following IM use any injection is capable of this but the more reactive or toxic the greater the chance. Though I am uncertain it is so labelled it is widely accepted that IM is an acceptable use at least with the commonly available formulations and I cannot every remember a client having a injection reaction when used this way.
DrO |
Stacy Upshaw
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Username: 36541
Post Number: 433
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, Jan 30, 2009 - 8:49 am: | |
Thanks to all for the help and hints. You can always count on horseadvice to expand your equine repertoire!! |
