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Diane Edmonds
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Username: Scooter

Post Number: 302
Registered: 9-2000
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 11:19 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Dr.O. My old mare who has the weight shifting problem. (hopefully you recall.) She is doing much better on the low carb diet, has lost a bunch of weight, and is still pretty stiff in her hind. She can now rest the back leg that isn't as bad and also cock the other one for short periods of time. She stays very active and bright. The problem is I still can't pick up her back feet without them going onto major spasms. I still don't know if it is pain from arthritis or shivers, (probably never will) however as you can imagine having the farrier trim her rears is quite an ordeal for him and her. I have tried buting her the night before and the day of her trimming with 2 grams bute each serving, it doesn't seem to help much. Would ace help? or would she fall over as she isn't real steady with one foot off the ground wide awake! I have considered banamine, but wouldn't that be the same as bute? She has to have her back feet trimmed if not they get to long and make her even more sore. Vet is coming tomorrow for teeth and I will run it by him also, but I am curious what your approach to this would be. I'm starting to dread farrier visits. Forgot the farrier also tries to hold her foot very low for her comfort, but soon as you touch her leg she draws it up under her belly and it goes into spasms (just the right) the left isn't too bad. Thanks
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 8:07 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Though you should try it, the lack of bute responsiveness sounds like you are still dealing with the muscle spasms caused by the shivers. Whether she falls or not depends on how heavy you dose her versus how much you push it but it is not likely.

I believe you are still early in the treatment but you should review and see if further rapidly digestible carb reduction possible and then be patient. If the diagnosis is correct you will be having a much better time with this next winter.
DrO
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Diane Edmonds
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 5:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Dr.O. The vet was here today for teeth. Flash (the old Mare)needed hers done so he tranqed her with dormosedan, just half a normal dose he said. She had her teeth power floated and held up fine. He couldn't believe the difference in her movement and was quite impressed with her progress. I asked him about the ace for trimming and he said he didn't think it would help beings it wasn't anxiety related. I guess I'll try the bute again, she has improved since the last farrier visit maybe it won't be such an ordeal. I have been picking her feet up daily and she is a VERY LITTLE better. Thanks
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Dawn Winans
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Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 5:19 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Diane,

I had a horse with this condition and I completely gave up shoeing his back feet. There was just no way he could hold up his back feet for any length of time and it was too stressful for him, the farrier, and me. He was so bad that I couldn't even pick up his feet to clean them. I tranq'ed him once and I thought I was going to have a heart attack because he was so wobbly.

We arena rode only and his back feet were kept filed down nicely so this worked for us.
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Diane Edmonds
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Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 7:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Dr.O. I decided to try banamine on this mare next farrier visit. How long does it take for banamine PASTE to kick in and how long does it last? Thanks
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 9:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

You will find the absorption times and recommended dosage frequencies for Banamine at Equine Medications and Nutriceuticals » Anti-inflammatories (NSAID's, Steroids, Arthritis Rx) » Flunixin (Banamine). Be sure to check out Disposition of flunixin meglumine injectable preparation administered orally to healthy horses. in the article.
DrO
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