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Lorrie Hutchens-Grover
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Username: Lorrieg

Post Number: 32
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 - 1:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

DR. O

We have a mare that I wrote in about 3 1/2 months ago that looked pregnant to us. There is no real history on the mare as my sister rescued her from the kill pen and she then ended up with us. She is approximately 10 years old according to the vet who came out to do the palpation on her.

The vets diagnoses was that she was not pregnant. Here we are now 3 1/2 months later, after reducing her food about 50%, with a mare that does not look any trimmer in fact slightly larger (definetly pregnant looking!). Yesterday, when I looked at her teats, I noticed a tiny bead of what looked like wax so I decided to give a squeeze, and much to my surprise a pretty good stream of milk came out!

My questions are could the vet have missed a foal that was that far along? At what point do pregnant mares start producing milk? Is there any reason that she might be producing this much milk (it was a very good stream)if she's not pregnant?

The question that I'm afraid to ask is, if she is pregnant will the foal be OK as we gave her a West Nile vaccination about 2 mos. ago and Equi-spot fly repellent about a week ago?

We will be having the vet out later this week, but meanwhile I'm going crazy with worry since this latest development with the bagging and milk flow thinking that we may have hurt this baby with underfeeding, a vaccination and fly repellent that I never would have given if I thought she was pregnant.

Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Lorrie
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Sara Wolff
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Post Number: 263
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Posted on Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 - 6:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Lorrie...and how's the new foal?

of course, I did have a mare that went through a false pregnancy. So, anything is possible.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 10659
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Monday, Jun 21, 2004 - 7:27 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yes mares can produce milk while not pregnant but it certainly is suspicious. The onset of lactation in pregnant mares is very variable but can begin as early as a month before or as late as the day the foal is born.

I agree with your decision to have her repalpated. There is no problem with the WNV vaccine (despite what you may read elsewhere) but the EquiSpot is not as innocuous. The chance it will cause serious problems in low however. If the mares condition has remained good I also don't think the food restriction is a big problem. Quit worrying and get her palpated then we will know what to do next.
DrO
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Lorrie Hutchens-Grover
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Monday, Jun 21, 2004 - 10:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hey Sara,

No foal yet! We stayed up all last night so it's bound to be tonight since we'll have to sleep. I'll be sure to post pictures if this blessed event does occur!

Lorrie
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Lorrie Hutchens-Grover
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Post Number: 34
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Posted on Monday, Jun 21, 2004 - 10:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Dr O,

I'll let you know what happens next!

Lorrie
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Post Number: 10668
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Posted on Tuesday, Jun 22, 2004 - 7:31 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

So she palpated in foal?
DrO
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Lorrie Hutchens-Grover
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Username: Lorrieg

Post Number: 35
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Tuesday, Jun 22, 2004 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

No, Sorry for being confusing, the vets not out until later this week.
Then I'll let you know what happens next!

Lorrie
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