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Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 613
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, Dec 25, 2007 - 9:15 pm: |   |
I am looking at a Hanovarian Andalusian cross.
I ma wondering about this mix, aren't they almost opposite in type?
Also, do Arabs or Andalusains have the suspension in their trot like warmbloods do?
Thank you |
Elizabeth Kaufman
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Username: ekaufman
Post Number: 242
Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, Dec 25, 2007 - 10:28 pm: | |
Hi Lori,
Some Andalusians have suspension and some do not. Some lines more reliably have suspension than others, and some of the suspended lines are more appropriate for upper level dressage than others.
If you're buying for a riding horse, it depends on that horse. Got pictures? Pedigree? Video?
I've commented elsewhere that many Andalusians don't outcross well on other breeds, but there are fabulous crosses, and some stallions do very well on other breeds. So it really comes down to this horse and how s/he is put together. |
jos
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Username: paardex
Post Number: 485
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 - 3:21 am: | |
Being mean I should add I've seen quite a few'oldfashioned' Hanovarians without suspension[and they mostly have a less good canter THE most important gait for a high level dressage horse] so don't immediately blame it on the Andalusion .
I would love to hear description and see pictures of such an [out]cross.
Jos
PS Did my email now reach you Elizabeth? |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 614
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 - 9:23 am: | |
Ok, If I can get some pictures I will post them.
Thanks |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: dro
Post Number: 19757
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 - 9:25 am: | |
Lori, the average warmblood would kill for the suspension of an average Arabian but as previously advised look at the individual to decide whether it is what you are looking for.
DrO |
Elizabeth Kaufman
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Username: ekaufman
Post Number: 244
Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 - 9:55 am: | |
Actually I think I have seen more good trots and canters than walks in Andalusians. But the business about their "natural collection" etc. is basically hooey-- they need careful development like any other horse, talented or not, and for many years were selected for characteristics that are NOT consistent with upper level dressage-- think the cracked knee and the "campaneo" or paddling. Longitudinal extensions and flexibility combined with suspension and good conformation is still a moderately rare find in the breed.
That being said, they are light and forward to ride, never "dumb-bloody" and will leave their meals to visit with you. And many would fight a bull for you and think it was fun!
Jos-- no. Maybe one of the HAers who has your address will send it to me, and we can try the other way? |
Ann
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Username: dres
Post Number: 1624
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 - 10:27 am: | |
Lori , can't tell you about the cross you are asking for... but have seen two Andy/ Tb crosses there were fabulous Dressage horses.. Lovely suspension / forward movement/ elastic / and a WoW of a canter!~
I think the newer sport horse hano's have a lot more suspension then some of the older lines, i agree.. but still love to throw some of the older style into the mix for attitude and appeal!~
Would love to see a photo of the cross you are looking at..
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots.. |
Erin Lower
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Username: rockin
Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 - 1:53 pm: | |
Lori,
I have helped to raise many warmblood crosses of different sorts, and the only rule of thumb seems to be that every single one of them has been remarkably unique (at least, as babies). I don't think that a single one of them looked like the others, acted like the others, or even moved like the others!
Good luck with your potential purchase; it sounds like it could have amazing potential! |
jos
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Username: paardex
Post Number: 486
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 - 1:55 pm: | |
Elizabeth if you would send me an email to valarchin@hotmail.com I will be able to answer you. French internet 
Jos |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 615
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 - 2:44 pm: | |
Of course you are right, a horse is an individual, any particular horse may perform above or below expectations depending on conformation regardless of breeding.
Thank you for the reminder. |
