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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 1:09 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well, we finally achieved the goal, a colt was born Wednesday AM. Mom is my TB mare Lilly, and dad is Voltaire. This baby was an embryo transfer from Lilly and he is healthy and happy!
I chose Dillon as his Dutch name, named after my mom's friend's son who died in Iraq. His show name is Poetic.
I still need a beer name for his call name.
Any suggestions?
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Another photo.
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 1:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

One more.
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Ann
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 3:27 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

look at them legs.. !~

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Diane E.
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 3:28 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

How Adorable Alicia...I bet his beer name will come after you get to know his personality
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Fran C
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Awwww...he's so cute! Congrats and enjoy!
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 4:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ann,
Yeah, he pretty much is 75 percent legs, 20 percent head, and 5 percent torso and neck at this point :-)
Diane,
I found one, Crawford, but my Mom hates it. I plan on reading a bunch of names to him tomorrow and see if he responds to any. So, far, he has been called sweetie and sweatheart by me, and pookie by the barn manager, so I need to make a decision so he will learn his name!
Hey, can anyone tell if he will grey? HEre is a close up (as close as I have right now), of his face. The color around the eye looks like a mealy tan to me, but maybe it is grey? Is there somewhere that tells you what color they will mature to from their foal coat? I know my black horse was a lot darker than this guy when he was born, he had some lighter areas, just as this guy does, on his legs, but he was basically black.
I know this guy's mom was partially grey at birth, and the one she lost two years ago was too.

Alicia
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Diane E.
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Posted on Friday, Mar 28, 2008 - 4:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I've always liked the name Tucker for some reason.. Scooter is another one I like, but I will NEVER have a foal again. Tho these pics make me want to change my mind.
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Chris
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Posted on Monday, Mar 31, 2008 - 10:07 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

A "beer name"?? How about Duvel? Not Dutch, but Belgian so pretty close.
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Monday, Mar 31, 2008 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well, we decided he was Dillon, so he won't be named after a beer, although there is a Dillon brewery in Colorado :-)
So, Dutch and barn name both Dillon. I will send more photos later today. Unfortunately, he IS going to grey, there are some white hairs around his eyes. Oh well, I have a grey boy instead of a bay girl, but he is very sweet and nicely put together, so hopefully the other things I wanted will be there!
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Diane E.
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Posted on Monday, Mar 31, 2008 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dillon is a cute name. Dillon's is also a name of a popular bar in our town, so that's a beer name to me. Good luck with Dillon
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jos
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008 - 3:49 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The grey boy will certainly keep his nice head!
Most Voltaires[you did mean the Dutch stallion did you?] have and have a sweet disposition too.
I already mailed I liked Dillon and the foal but cyberspace ate my mail.
Jos
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Erika L
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008 - 8:51 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Alicia, beautiful boy! And I am proud of you for honoring the boy who died in Iraq. What a nice legacy that I'm sure the boy's mother appreciates.
Whatever color, he's a keeper!
BTW, how are the collies? Did you keep any pups?
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008 - 2:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Diane!
Jos, Yes, I was expecting a pretty head, Mommy has a very pretty head and so does Voltaire. Yes,I did mean the Dutch stallion (also registered Hannoverian). I have heard good and bad things about Voltaire offspring myself, but I hope that this guy turns out to have his good parts.
Erika,
I have a new photo of my clan I will post here. I kept the tri bitch Kenzie and one of the 4 sable dogs Peyton. Duncan and Mackay are owned by show homes, so they are starting their show careers. I actually am showing all 4 of mine plus Duncan starting tomorrow. This is the first time I have ever shown that many at once, should be a whirlwind!
Here is the photo.
Kate, Brean, Peyton, and Kenzie
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008 - 2:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Here are some more photos of Dillon at 3 days.
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008 - 3:00 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

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Alicia Moore
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008 - 3:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Last
As you can see, he already loves rolling in the mud!
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Nicole Tucker
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008 - 3:27 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

All I can say is: "Look at those legs!!!" O_O

Congrats on the baby Alicia, he's a cutie.

Nicole
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jos
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 2, 2008 - 3:22 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

What bad things did you hear of Voltaire Alicia?
Apart from givin a bit of a small horse from time to time I thought he was an excellent stallion? And I've seen quite a few of them in different disciplines over the years
Jos
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 2, 2008 - 9:32 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Jos,
I have heard his offspring can be "tricky", such as being very sensitive and being whacko, or being amazingly wonderful. It seems they are all or nothing. That, however, is all heresay, and I took it with a grain of salt when I used him for my baby.
Alicia
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jos
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 3, 2008 - 4:01 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

It almost sounds as if th tricky whacko ones were foals of one of the stallions owners other studs [Mytens xx now they could be WHACKO!]. Mostly they really are known as sweet horses[in Europe] I am sure you will love your Dillon!
Jos
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Thursday, Apr 3, 2008 - 7:50 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Jos,
Can you repeat that a different way, I am not sure what you said?
Alicia
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jos
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Posted on Friday, Apr 4, 2008 - 6:36 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Sorry Alicia,sometimes my use of English is not to clear.
I meant to say that in Europe the children of Voltaire normally are known for a pleasant disposition[though with a temperament towards TB more then 'oldfashioned' German] a beautiful head and usually comfortable gaits with a good canter.
The owner of Voltaire[Jan Greve] has numerous stallions one of which is Mytens xx[very very good showjumper but completely whacko as you put it] so I tried to say the tricky whacko Voltaire children in the US must have been children of Mytens xx by accident[JOKE! I am not accusing anybody]
Jos
PS I will stop making jokes until my English get's better
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cp
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Posted on Friday, Apr 4, 2008 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well if those pictures don't make a person smile I don't know what will. Very cute! Thank you for sharing.
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 - 1:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

OK, here are some recent photos, at a month old.
Still doing well. I am moving him this week to a new home with mommy where they will be turned out with others his age on large fields with grass.
This is me with him, he is getting pretty big pretty quick! When can you do the string test (knee to coronet band)?
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 - 1:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Here is another. Basically the same, just a little different of him.
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 - 1:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Here is one of his snip.
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 - 1:49 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

And of his star.
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 - 1:50 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

And one of his eye. Any bets on whether he is going to turn grey?
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Ann
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 - 2:10 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

BEAUTIFUL... hard to say about graying.. if he is going to looks like it will be a slow process as in a pretty steal gray for a while ... I can't say other then WOW he is lovely..

On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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Lori
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Congratulations on a beautiful baby, he looks pretty spunky!

Is Lily gray?
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 - 3:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ann,
I hope he doesn't turn, greys are so hard to get really white.
Lori,
Yes, but she only has one grey gene, so we had a 50 50 shot.
Alicia
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Fran C
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 - 4:27 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

He's a pretty baby, Alicia. I hope for your sake that he doesn't gray out. I know first hand what a pain in the butt it is to keep a gray looking really pretty. Always swore I'd never own a white horse...and guess what I have? I try to turn a blind eye to the manure spots and yellow hair and brown main and tail in the winter. It's so hard to do. Guaranteed the first warm day of the spring, she gets a good scrubbing...and then a few more to really get her white.

Anyway, enjoy your lovely boy. He looks like a lot of fun!
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Diane E.
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Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 - 4:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

What long legs he has, you should have called him spider. He is a very Handsome guy...and looks VERY healthy, enjoy your new foal!
like kids they grow up real fast.
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jos
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 5:11 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

With such a handsome foal every color is good

Jos
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Sara Wolff
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 9:09 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I don't know why I've been so slow in picking up on this conversation....such a beautiful foal! And, what legs and conformation. He looks like he's going to be one heck of a performance horse. And, luck him to be going to where he can be turned out on pasture, have playmates, and run around. I guess you realize now that you will have to keep us updated with photos of him growing up?
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LL
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 11:12 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Gorgeous boy - and the length of those LEGS!
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 12:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Fran, yes, Lilly was grey, so I know about how hard it is to keep them clean. I used everything I could find to whiten her tail for 6 years, with no luck! How I envied those with silver greys with their glistening coats and tails! I don't think I have ever seen a flea bitten grey with a shine in their coat!
Diane, LL,
His legs really are long, aren't they! The great thing is, he is VERY balanced and can run and change directions on a dime.
jos,
I agree, and I won't love him less if he is grey. The top hunter horse in the US ever was a grey, so there is no prejudice on that color!
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Sara,
Thanks for the compliments, and YES, I will be constantly sending photos :-)
I am not sure yet of really anything conformation wise, except he does seem to have lost Lilly's long loin (her's was a bit weak from being so long, which made collection difficult), and he seems to have her nice straight bones and nice pastern angle and daddy's beautiful hock angulation. However, I have no idea if that will last!
Here is a photo of Lilly and one of Voltaire, for reference.

I don't know why the Voltaire photo is so small, hmm. Well, anyway, from these photos, it appears Lilly contributed very little to Dillon's conformation! Spitting image of daddy. I just hope he got her mind, she is so willing and bomb proof.!
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Sara Wolff
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Alicia, I know a woman who has a couple of Voltaire foals and they are lovely, and very sweet also. I also have a friend who has a Voltaire related horse, I forget now but think he's a grandson. At anyrate, the horse is a wonderfully athletic jumper with a great disposition. (Jos probably knows/remembers more about the relationship than I do...Ellen's horse, Jos.)

It's been my experience with foals that if they are born with good conformation, it only improves as they get older and start to get muscle. Your foal is a "winner!"
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Alicia Moore
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 12:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Sara,
Yes, jos had mentioned she liked the voltaire offspring she had met. Very nice to see such good experiences with them! To tell you the truth, though, when I made up my list of what I hoped the baby would be, one was to have Lilly's temperament :-) The only thing wrong with her is that she was herd bound, but I am positive that resulted from her upbringing as a race horse which resulted in her isolation from other horses. That is another reason I want Dillon turned out in a herd as long as possible.
In my very limited experience, what you said IS true, that they get better. However, since I only have one other baby to count as experience, I figured it might have not been the norm.
Alicia
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jos
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Don't worry Alicia, I saw daddy jump and he was a very talented sweet horse, bombproof I wouldn't say but you can work on that.
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jos
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Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 - 12:43 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Sara I think it was a mother from Voltaire? Ellen's horse I mean, I suppose Alicia will have to herd sheep with him till he is bombproof?
[ Apart from showjumping to my enormous delight Sara's friend Ellen takes here young showjumpers to herd her sheep to the summerpastures in the mountains] [Should mention though Sara's Arabs seem to be doing a very good job with the sheep to!]
Jos
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