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Christy
| | Posted on Saturday, Apr 3, 1999 - 11:27 am: |   |
I believe my mare pulled a fast one on me. She showed many signs of pregnancy, including some bagging up just at the right time. But when she reached 12 months plus a week, I knew something wasn't right. Had her palpated and, you guessed it, no baby there. Do they really have false pregnancys all the way to the end? If so, when is it ok to start breeding again? |
The Advisor Vet, RN Oglesby DVM
| | Posted on Monday, Apr 12, 1999 - 6:36 am: | |
Hello Christy,
I think I answered this question on the old forum and did not get the answer moved over. This is a reply I posted to Julie, which fits your situation:
I think the concept of a "false pregnancy" is not well defined in horses and when people use the term I am never sure what they mean. If you are referring to your mare bagging up, you may be having a real pregnancy. On the other hand a lot of mares when they get into a positive energy balance, like happens in the spring, add a little fat and fluid to the bag.
Loss of the fetus after day 40 will result in a mare not returning to estrus for a several months due to hormaonal events which could be called a false pregnancy. These mare usually return to heat aorund day 200 post breeding unless this has thrown them into the anestral times of the year.
Christy, I would have the mare checked by a Veterinarian and if he pronounces her healthy, breed her.
DrO |
Cecelia L Bulkley
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Username: Ceceb
Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2002 - 7:40 pm: | |
What are the systems of a false pregnancy? My mare was bred in June, ultrasound showed a fetus, but in July my vet palpated her and said she wasn't in foal. Just this past month she's been gaining weight in her belly only, and then a little all over her hindquarters, and has never gone back into heat. It's been 150 days since breeding her. She looks pregnant! He checked her today and said she's NOT according the feel of her uteurus. I exercise her several times a week and feed her the same amount of food. Could she just be gaining weight? |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 7199
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 - 6:28 am: | |
No, though her stomach is getting bigger she may not be gaining weight. But assuming the vet is correct, this has nothing to do prenancy or false pregnancy, run a search on grass belly or hay belly for more discussions on this.
DrO |
Cecelia L Bulkley
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Username: Ceceb
Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 - 11:30 am: | |
I know it's not a grass belly. She must be either pregnant or a false pregnancy. My vet says it's probally a false pregnancy. So, would she still be starting to show with the extra weight, lack of heats, and even an irregular shape belly when you look at her from the rear? Would this happen with a false pregnancy? My concern is that I need to start her on some shots if pregnant. Is there a blood test and is it normally expensive? |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 7209
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 - 6:09 pm: | |
For 15 years we have run a breeding and foaling station and see over 50 breeding mares every year in various stages of being pregnant and not being pregnant. I have nonpregnant mares that look pregnant continuously and a mare, that despite advanced age and multiple pregnancies, never looks pregnant. I have palpated her 14 days before she dropped a foal, just to be sure she was still pregnant.
Not only do I have a lot of reproductive experience, but I keep up very closely with the breeding literature, Cecila. I am contracted by the publisher of the most complete text on equine reproduction to review and input on their latest editions. I am not aware that there is such a thing as an abdomen growing big because of a false pregnancy in horses.
If you think your vet is wrong on the pregnancy diagnosis get a second opinion.
DrO |
Liliana Velasco Ariza
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Username: Liliana
Post Number: 3
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 14, 2003 - 6:58 pm: | |
Good Afternoon,
I adopted a mare and a stallion two months ago as the owner had to leave the country, they had been lost for a few months and when I got them on October 19th I was told she was pregnant, she has rather a big belly and walks heavy, but, nobody can tell me how pregnant she is.
I live in Cozumel, Mexican Caribbean were equine vets wear bids. I know it sounds demeaning but it is true. Is there like a thomb rule about how many months she may be, there is no waxing or sweling of the tits yet.
This picture was taken December 16th 2002
Thanking you in advence for any help you can provide me with,
Liliana Velasco  |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 7593
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 15, 2003 - 6:30 am: | |
Hello Liliana,
There is no way to judge how far along this mare is by appearance: I have seen mares that looked like they were ready to foal who were empty and mares who did not look pregnant foal in 2 weeks. Best would be to have her palpated to confirm pregnancy and if she is, get all her vaccines up to date, keep the protein in the whole diet at about 12%, and start to watch for her to bag up as your best clue the time is getting close.
What is a bid?
DrO |
