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Diane Brezniak
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, Jul 28, 2006 - 2:35 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

My TB mare who was in KY to be bred, was close to 3 months in foal, doing fine and was about to come home, was found dead in her paddock early in the morning. She was perfectly normal, on feed, and grazing with her paddock mates at dusk the previous night. She has been sent for an autopsy but I was wondering if something related to her pregnancy could cause this. She was only 7 years old and had previously delivered live twins, one of which survived and is now 2. She had been examined many times and everything was ok. She was vaccinated for just about everything prior to shipping to KY. I am in shock and completely devastated to have lost such a beautiful mare and future foal.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Post Number: 16262
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Posted on Friday, Jul 28, 2006 - 6:49 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

My condolences Diane. This is probably not directly related to the pregnancy Diane but the necropsy should clarify this. Why did you title this NSAID's and stomach irritation?
DrO
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Sue G
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 29, 2006 - 12:36 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

That is so tragic, Diane. Please know you are in my thoughts as you go through this rough time.

Was your poor girl the Spectacular Bid daughter you reference in your profile?

Take care
Sue
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Diane Brezniak
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 29, 2006 - 1:06 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you, Sue, for your kind thoughts. Yes, this was the mare Bid's Baby by Spectacular Bid. Here is a picture of her with her twin colt. It is heart-wrenching. She was in foal to Skip Away and we were looking forward to nice foal.Bid's Baby with  twin colt, Gideon
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DJ
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, Jul 29, 2006 - 2:17 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Diane,

I am so sorry for your loss. I do know the pain you are experiencing at this time. I wish there was something I could do, or say, to ease your heartache. I urge you to reflect on all of your precious memories, hold them close to your heart forever. The picture speaks a thousand words ...beautiful. My thoughts, and prayers, are with you.

DJ
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Vicki Zaneis
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 29, 2006 - 1:50 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Sincere and heartfelt condolences for you at this time of such a devastating loss, Diane.
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Linda S.
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Post Number: 113
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, Jul 31, 2006 - 9:27 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Diane,
I am so sorry this happened to you. She was obviously such a special mare. I love Spectacular Bid and Skip Away. I'm sure you were looking forward to seeing what such a mating would have produced (a grey for sure!).

Its hard to understand why these things happen. Only time will ease your broken heart. Hang in there.
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Diane Brezniak
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Post Number: 30
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Posted on Monday, Jul 31, 2006 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you all for taking the time to write to me. I really appreciate it. I have Gideon (her twin colt) and her dam Tomahawkstress is still around (a very special broodmare herself) and I have her from time to time also. But I will miss the beautiful and only Bid's Baby, who I foaled myself.
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Diane Brezniak
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Thursday, Sep 28, 2006 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I finally got the necropsy report back. The final diagnosis was small intestine mesenteric volvulus. What I could find on the internet suggests the cause is unknown. My question is how could she display no symptoms at 10 PM the previous night and be dead by early AM? The farm owner, whose son was the attending veterinarian, said that she has only seen this happen once before and that mare didn't show any symptoms either other than depression.

Sorry this thread is filed under the wrong heading; the program would not let me change it.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Friday, Sep 29, 2006 - 6:25 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The cause is usually abnormal motility Diane but that just puts the problem one back: why does the bowel have abnormal motility. Often serious colics like this don't seem associated with other events. Cardiovascular shock is the most likely cause of death though it might have been complicated by disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC). These systemic events stem from several different causes but the most important may have been that the strangulated bowel releases bacteria and toxins into the blood resulting in falling blood pressure and death.
DrO
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Diane Brezniak
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, Sep 29, 2006 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

This mare had suffered mild colic events in the past usually during pregnancy. I would watch her and if it didn't resolve in 10 min I'd give her half dose of Banamine. If after 15 min she wasn't better, which she usually was, I'd give her another half dose of Banamine. One time she did some weird things like standing in the water trough. One vet thought she might be sporting an ulcer and because I would have had to transport her to be scoped and that would have been stressful for her, I opted to try cimetidine for a while. It seemed to help. She would also display colicky behavior when moving to a new location and I always alerted the farm managers to this. Could these mild events be indicative of a more serious issue like what caused her death? Specifically, what is mesenteric volvulus? How is the mesentery involved?
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Patricia Bell
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Post Number: 127
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Friday, Sep 29, 2006 - 4:51 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Diane, my sincere condolences, I lost a mare around that time too. She had a fungus disease of the guttural pouches. I understand the loss. Take care.
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