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Darla Mitchell (Darla)
Posted on Monday, Apr 9, 2001 - 10:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

My mare is due to foal within a week. She is bagged up, no sign of waxing, but she has patches of tiny white dots around her teats. Any ideas what these are, and what causes them? Are they any cause for concern?
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM (Dro)
Posted on Tuesday, Apr 10, 2001 - 5:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I don't know Darla, tiny white dots does not register as anything I am familiar with. Do they rub off?
DrO
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S. T. Bruce (Kari)
Posted on Tuesday, Apr 10, 2001 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I had a similar situation on my mare approx. l0days to 2 weeds prior to foaling. They did wipe off and I assumed that they were milk droplets. Tbe mare foaled on time and without problems so I have to assume they were of no particular consequence. This was a maiden mare and I have not seen them on mares who have had previous foals.
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Imogen Bertin
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Username: Imogen

Post Number: 311
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 - 2:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I saw this on my mare before she started fully waxing. It actually looked like her nipples had whitefly... Glad to hear Kari's mare foaled normally because mine is now a few days overdue and has been dripping milk/colostrum all over her back legs for 3 days (she is stabled in a foaling unit nearby and the guy keeps telling me she is going to foal every night - I think she just has an evil wish to keep him from watching Punchestown Races which is on the telly this week).

I don't know how concerned I should be about the milk dripping other than to tell the vet when he comes to check the foal eventually in case there is a colostrum deficiency?

To the best of my knowledge there's no fescue involved...

All the best

Imogen
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 8278
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003 - 9:32 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Have the foal checked but take heart, lots of mare drip but this really does not seem to often result in low IgG for the foal.
DrO
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Imogen Bertin
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Username: Imogen

Post Number: 312
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 - 2:30 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dr O, the guy who is foaling her said that if she foals any later than tonight he would be a bit worried by the amount of milk lost.

He said what he usually does in that situation is to mix up what they call "beastings" here (seems to be some sort of dried colostrum protein that you mix with warm water) and give the foal that as soon as it's starting to try to suck, then let it take what it can from the mare, and when the vet comes then to get them to test for immunoglobulins(?) to check. He says he does this because you can't guarantee the vet will get there in time and usually they are too late.

However, when I probed a bit further he believes that the immunity comes from whatever first lines the foal's stomach, rather than the 12-18 hours time limit for transfer of Igs through the stomach wall.

Does it seem OK as a plan?

Thanks for your response. I am not too worried as he seems to know what he is doing and I don't want to interfere (why buy a dog and bark yourself especially when you don't know what you're barking about!) but the stomach lining thing was a little alarming. I can't see the beastings would hurt except for interfering with the foal/mare bonding and nursing a little.

All the best
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro

Post Number: 8288
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

What are beastings made of? In general it is thought best not to prefeed "stuff" because closure of the bowel to the large immunoglobulins may be hastened by contact with food.
DrO
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Imogen Bertin
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Username: Imogen

Post Number: 313
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 1, 2003 - 5:29 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I don't know what beastings actually is though I'll try to find out for interest's sake. However it's hypothetical now as the foal arrived last night, it seems fine though it is unfortunately a filly and has a rather unattractive blobby star, but nice and tall and it will be going grey so with luck the star won't notice - you can't have everything!

When I get a picture I'll post it in the babypics thread.

I imagine the vet will be over sometime today so I'll find out more after that. No sign of human life at the foaling place and I know the owner has been up at nights for about 2 weeks so I imagine he's having a well-earned kip and I didn't want to disturb him.

Thanks to all on the board for your advice and especially Dr O.

Imogen
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Post Number: 8302
Registered: 1-1997
Posted on Thursday, May 1, 2003 - 10:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Can't wait for the pictures!
DrO
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