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Inuktik
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Posted on Wednesday, Jun 11, 2008 - 9:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello,

I would love to get anyone's comments on this yearling warmblood filly's conformation, as well as any general tips for assessing same. Many thanks!!Yearling picture
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Sarah Blanchard
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Posted on Wednesday, Jun 11, 2008 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Nice shoulder and front end! Good bone, nice short cannon, long forearm.
For my preferences, I'd look for a shorter back and longer croup, but fillies are often lighter than colts in that regard. The hindquarters look a bit light in muscling, but that's just my opinion and perhaps I'm being picky. I love the length of hip-to-hock. Should produce a nice sweeping stride.

It's so hard to predict the eventual outcome...but I'd say that shoulder will produce a nice uphill balance when she's done growing.

There's a good website on conformation assessment by the German Federation -- I don't have it bookmarked but you can Google it. Try "sport horse conformation" and "warmblood conformation standards" or some variation.
What a pretty girl!

Sarah
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Ann
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Posted on Wednesday, Jun 11, 2008 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

What are you going to use her for?

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Ann
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Posted on Wednesday, Jun 11, 2008 - 10:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

...and by the way... i think she is just awful and i will gladly hide her here for you.. :-)

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Wiley Gillmor
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Posted on Wednesday, Jun 11, 2008 - 10:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Sarah,

Is this what your are referring to?

http://www.americantrakehner.com/SportHorse%20Conformation/SHCpart1.htm

It's from the Trakehner web site, but not specific to Trakehners.

Wiley
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Inuktik
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Posted on Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 - 12:17 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks so much for such a detailed post Sarah and thank you Wiley for finding that article - it is greatly appreciated!! Also, thank you Ann for offering to board her for me (grin), but I think that I would like to keep her closer to home. I am looking at returning to eventing }after a 20 yr absence from competing and having horses. I think that she just might be my dream horse that I have been working towards, and saving for, for the past few years. It is a big commitment for me which is why I am looking for assistance from the wonderful people on this forum, which I came across yesterday - it's quite amazing. I also am looking at this fella, he's 3 and 1500 less then the filly, but she really has my heart. Again, and suggestions/comments are really welcome & appreciated.
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Inuktik
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Posted on Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 - 12:17 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

3 yr warmblood
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jos
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Posted on Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 - 2:41 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

On the base of her pedigree we could perhaps tell you more about how her ancestors were used and for how long and if there were other things you should look at?
Glad to help if you give the information.
Jos
PS Just Curious why a warmblood for eventing and to what level?
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Inuktik
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Posted on Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 - 4:58 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Jos,
Thanks so much for replying. Her sire was Fabuluex (Hanoverian standing at Bridlewood Hanoverians), with his pedigree including Fabriano, SPS Auguste, Wendulan, Agmara, Augustinus XX, and SPS Atlanta. Her dam is a Canadian warmblood out of Donner Bube (Oldenburg)& DR Kall Gall, with their pedigree including Donnerhall, St. Pr. Aldate, Wodan, and Kaw Gal (TB).

I have always wanted a warmblood and am now 43 yrs old, so if I cannot get back into eventing form, then pursuing dressage would be my next option, or lower level show jumping. At my age, I am past the dream of 4 star competing and my goal would be to get back to preliminary if possible. I really do appreciate the assistance with this. }
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 - 6:03 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Welcome Inuktik,
You will find both general and specific concepts on conformation at, References » Equine Illustrations » Leg Anatomy and Conformation.
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jos
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Posted on Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 - 6:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Inuktik, Found the filly on a yearling sale site with pedigree and all.
[If it is the same] she seems an excellent prospekt, Old Hanoverian blood mixed with a firm shot of TB.[3third or fourth generationmother TB to]
Apart from the fact that especially the Donnerhall line can give a bit heavy [or 'oldfashioned'] horses,in this case I think solved by using enough TB I think an impeccable lineage. You could expect a very good Dressagehorse and ditto broodmare[not what you are looking for but you never know an extra option is always good]with according to the family a very good character[ there are stallions in this line that have worked long and hard without known problems]
Showjumping could be less good but that you never know you need to try and I mean on high level.
With this amount of TB and soundness build in in the pedigree and also willingness to work a good choice for eventing to if you don't plan to win the Olympics[but that too you never know]
If it is the same horse as in the site: loved pictures and conformation too
Hope this helps and please keep us posted.
Jos
PS If you want information on the gelding too just give the parents. Remember though I am generalizing on the base of what I've seen and heard of the family.
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Inuktik
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Posted on Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 - 7:00 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks so much for the welcome Dr. O and pointing me in the right direction for information. Also, many thanks Jos for your feedback and input, it is greatly appreciated. The gelding's sire is WH Leader, who has in his pedigree, Landadel, Grandezza, Grannus and Loyale. His dam is not given, but her sire was Sagittarius which has Sirius in the line} and the dam's grandfather (hope that makes sense)is given as being Bold Battle. Again, thanks so much for all of the help as I am trying to find my horse legs and get back involved with this wonderful animal :-)
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Ann
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Posted on Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 - 9:04 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Is the second picture a gelding, not the filly as there is no white..
The bloodlines of the filly scream dressage , Like jos said you also would have a nice breeding mare as well..

Have fun..

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Suzanne Reed
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Posted on Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 - 12:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Inuktic,

I dont' know as much about judging conformation and lines as jos, and Sarah and Ann, but I am familiar with Landadel having bred into the line with good result. Below is what is said about him on the site where two of his sons stand. Landadel's grandson, Lantinus, is the 10th ranked Grand Prix jumper in the world and has qualified for the Olympics. Also, the names on the Dam side imply TB bloodlines. If Bold Battle is a TB with Bold Ruler in its bloodlines that also speaks well for jumping and endurance and heart. Bold Ruler was the sire of Secretariat as well as the sire of several world class Grand Prix jumpers.

"Landadel was one of the most popular and successful stallions of his generation who sadly died at a young age in 1996. Hardly a second sire deserves the label "foundation sire" as much as he does. His uniform transmission of type, nobility, color, movement and predisposition for jumping is second to none. He produced multiple licensing champion stallions, SPS mares, grand prix offspring and his presence is strongly noticed in the recent Federal and European championships. Landadel is 5th in the Hanoverian index with offspring over $30.000 earnings even though he is a Holsteiner."

Good Luck with search. Looks like you have two very nice options already.

Suzanne
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Inuktik
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Posted on Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Ann, yes the second picture is of the gelding. I was set to make the drive when his owner emailed me to let me know that she was increasing his price by 2000.00, so I started to expand my search a bit,given that my budget was increasing :-) and happened across the filly.

Thank you Suzanne for the information on the gelding's pedigree, it is really appreciated and all this information is super to have. I hope everyone is having a great day!!}
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jos
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Posted on Friday, Jun 13, 2008 - 3:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hy Inuktik, additional info on the gelding: Landadel[there are two approved sires called Landadel but this one is Landgraf x Farnese and totally Holstein bred] strew from time to time[due to the Farnese blood] big and small children, also the Landgraf blood though giving exceptional showjumpers[and the odd dressage horse] gave veterinary problems regularly to[less hardy then the mares lines]but don't forget this exceptional stallion bred long and gave so many children there were thus also mare not so suitable for him bred by him due to his popularity.
Grannus gave the same problems[though Oldenburger with a dot of Trakehener] sometimes not to easy characters and from time to time small front feet.
Sirius I do not know but I seem to remember he has some Trakehner blood.
Bold Ruler lines gave very good showjumpers[plus the dressagehorse Bartock walking in my pasture ] but usually gave difficult characters too.
This one I would want to try out better then the mare based on his pedigree[vetted and looked at his 'working attitude] But it is a gelding so in the end if the horse is fine the papers are unimportant
Good luck and hope you let us know how you get on.
Jos
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Inuktik
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Posted on Friday, Jun 13, 2008 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks again Jos for all of this super information. I know I have said this alot, but it is really appreciated. I am definitely leaning towards the filly and am wondering what people would recommend that I have done for a prepurchase exam given her age, especially regarding x-rays.
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jos
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Posted on Saturday, Jun 14, 2008 - 3:39 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Always pleased to 'talk' about my favourite topic.
I think on paper the mare IS the better one but of course you need to see them to decide[question of taste too]
Everything older then six months I had always x rayed[with hocks and knees] if the x rays were good and the horse sound further only a general health exam by an experienced vet. If the x rays gave some doubts : experienced clinic and advice of a vet you really trust to make the call[and perhaps a second opinion from Dr.O?]
Trust me it is worth the money if only to make you feel you've taken every precaution, it's no guarantee but you eliminate a lot of problems.
Jos
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jos
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Posted on Saturday, Jun 14, 2008 - 3:44 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I forgot to mention, but perhaps you already know, especially the lines of the mare are 'late'. They usually don't do very well when put to work early.[I don't mean learning her stuff but real physic conditioning]
Jos
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Saturday, Jun 14, 2008 - 8:28 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

We have an article that explains the ins and out of a prepurchase exam including the positives and negatives of radiographs at Horse Care » Routine Horse Care » Prepurchase Exam of the Horse.
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Inuktik
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Posted on Sunday, Jun 15, 2008 - 5:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Jos and Dr. O,

Thanks again to the both of you for all of this valuable information. I really appreciate having your input Jos as to what you have been doing with your horses & having access to these articles, is completely fantastic Dr. O (hopefully not to be sounding too much over the top with my excitement). I actually am lucky as the filly is located a short distance from a city that has one of Canada's veterinary colleges. I was hoping to narrow down what would be needed regarding X-rays as a full exam from the vet school, with everything x-rayed, is about 1000.00, and she is 11K. I also am looking at getting insurance on her. I am hoping to read Dr. O's article after work this evening & only x-raying hocks and knees, as you suggested Jos, would cut down the cost. I hope that I am not imposing here, but Jos what sort of schedule would you be recommending regarding training for the filly? I am hoping that basic saddle work could start when she is 3, not much cantering or too much work on transitions, but basically used to having someone on her back and walking out, and working in a long rein with beginning work into the bit, though not much. I was thinking about 2 months of this and then putting her back out to pasture, aside from nice hacks out. When she is 4, again bring her back and continue with flat work for about 3 months, then turn out with hacks. I was not planning any jumping work until she was 5 or 6. Some people have suggested x-raying growth plates before starting jumping. Again, MANY thanks for being so helpful and forthcoming with information & I hope everyone is having a super weekend!!
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jos
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Posted on Monday, Jun 16, 2008 - 4:03 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Inuktik as for vetting her I would try to keep the costs down certainly if they will be about 10% of the whole horse so start with the most important thing perhaps clinical exam and radiograph any'suspicious' parts.As soon as the insurance is OK with it I would be too. But I am used to saying goodbye to horses from time to time and would sell her if she grew up into something not quite to my liking keep that in mind with my advice. Other members might give a different advice.
The training question will be much better answered by other members with more experience in this sector.
We started a young horse in good condition in the winter of 2,5 years then put them back in the fields for the summer same at 3,5 and the late ones sometimes even the next year. It is not the weight which will bother such a big young horse it is 'real training' as long as they didn't get tired we worked in an indoor arena during the winter with lungeing, riding, free jumping and even a little jumping under the saddle as soon as the horse was comfortable with it. This was due to the climate in Holland. In Normandy they can go out on a little trailride. They just usually aren't ready to work steady and perhaps show a whole year long before being adult.
That's what I would call a 'normal'time table.
Please keep us posted on how you go on
Jos
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Elizabeth Kaufman
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Posted on Monday, Jun 16, 2008 - 9:46 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi,

These are both lovely horses, and I certainly can't offer the same analysis that Jos and others can on pedigree. From a sport horse perspective, their necks seems a scoche short to me, but I like the giraffes!

I do wonder whether it wouldn't be a shorter path to your dream to purchase an older horse already under saddle. Of course it is wonderful to find babies, especially gorgeous and well-bred ones, but every moment they are growing up is time you don't ever get back for riding.

My favorite riding horse shattered his leg playing 6.5 years ago. I searched for his replacement, and bought my dream colt at 8 months old. That youngster is 6 now, and finally old enough and mature enough for hard work (he's been under saddle since the fall of his 3rd year, but no power on earth could hurry him up). He is green now, but ready and able.

I ended up finding other horses to fill the gap, and now I own a lot of horses! But in retrospect, I would be farther along towards my own dream if I had found a horse that was ready when I was. And I have spent the money I saved in time and fill-in horses and baby raising and so on.

Just a thought-- if you want to ride, perhaps consider a riding horse that can start now.
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Andrea Duncan
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Posted on Monday, Jun 16, 2008 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Elizabeth makes a valid point. Been there, done that and am in the middle of a yearling & a 3month old (again) myself. It's a long time before you get into the real work. Don't get me wrong, it's rewarding to raise your own babies but it's an awful long time spent on the ground.
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Sarah Blanchard
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Elizabeth raises a valid point about the value of being able to ride now, instead of waiting for the baby to grow up.

I've always loved to breed and raise my own, but now, at 58, I'm much more aware of the time factor. Also, a little less than a year ago I lost a gorgeous two-year-old warmblood gelding to wobbler's syndrome. (See the article here on this.)

Terrific bloodlines (Belgian warmblood sire, Eros, with dressage and jumping lines; local QH mare with a lot of TB in her and a lot of jumping talent). We bred by AI, with plenty of trouble and expense to do it. The baby had superb conformation and a wonderful personality, very level-headed. He was starting longe work, knew his voice commands, self-loaded in my trailer, had traveled to shows and been ponied on trail rides. This was to be my "last great horse," destined to be my partner and carry me gracefully into my elder years. I was looking into having him inspected/registered with American Belgian Warmblood Society and/or RPSI.

I'd been careful with his feed and conditioning, being very aware that warmbloods can have trouble with developmental issues such as OCD. He was diagnosed with wobbler's last August and we had him euthanized just before his second birthday. It was devastating, and it took me several months to get back to riding my other horses.

I'm not saying "don't purchase a baby," just suggesting that you should weigh the pros and cons thoroughly. It's not just the time factor -- many things can go awry with the young ones.
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Inuktik
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Posted on Monday, Jun 16, 2008 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks everyone for sharing your personal experiences with me and you raise some very valid points and concerns that I need to thoroughly weigh. So, I am at the point that I need to buckle down and do some serious thinking AND more reading. Again, thank you!! Sarah, I can only imagine what you went through with your fella. I would find that devastating as well.
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Inuktik
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Posted on Friday, Jul 11, 2008 - 11:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello everyone,

Hope you all are doing well!! We made the drive to see the filly today and had her prepurchase exam done. We had the fetlocks and hocks x-rayed. The vet just called back and said that there may be a spot in one hock and he is having the surgeon look at it tomorrow and then he will call us. One thing that I am a bit worried about is that she is cow hocked in the back and seems to travel quite close, though is not brushing when she is moving. The owner said that the filly's mom was "worse" when she was younger, than the filly is now, and that she "improved" as she got older. I have been away from horses for 15 years, and have not had any previous experience with warmbloods. Some of the ones that I have seen recently, as 4 & 5 year olds, do seem somewhat cow hocked. Unfortunately we were unable to take any pictures of her today, camera problems, but I do have these from when she was a weanling. Any and all help is appreciated!! Thanks!!

Okay - I just tried to upload the pictures but the file is too large and I am on the computer at the hotel. If you go to www.onlinefoalauction.com and click on the picture of the foal auction and then the tab auction, you will find her pictures under Firefly. Again, thank you.
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jos
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2008 - 3:27 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Sorry couldn't get in the site.
What exactly do you mean by cowhocked? The angle of the hock imo will not change, if you mean she is sloppy walking and her hind legs get to close to each other it could be the growing. Then I would think she just hasn't enough power. If so don't forget this could mean you buy a 'late' horse so your training schedule needs to be adjusted.
If her hock [at this age] isn't impeccable I would consider not to accept it. You are buying a young horse there are plenty of them why take risks? Each month you have no horse to board your budget get's bigger. But I am perhaps a bit harsh[experience] and other members will put me in my place.
Jos
PS Warmbloods[again my opinion] are certainly less 'hard' than TBs or arabcrosses or your local races, so be careful!There best part is the showjumping and dressageability, and what could well do in a show arena might not do in eventing[we got quite a shock when we started exporting horses that were in our opinion veterinary good when we found out how they had to live[footing of paddocks and outdoors. Very different from Holland and Germany and it gave especially in first generations often problems]
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Inuktik
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2008 - 9:48 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks for trying to get to the site Jos. I am not doing a very good job of explaining, but some of the stances that she took, while standing yesterday, with her back end - it was like her stifle was outward facing and her left back toe was facing almost sideways. She could correct this and stand with this hoof facing more forward. The vet said that her conformation was "within normal limits with no glaring abnormalities." Her owner said that she has noticed that the filly prefers to walk or canter and doesn't seem to trot much. Again, thanks Jos for your input and my husband is much of the mindset that you are if there is a hock problem. }
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Andrea Duncan
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2008 - 11:00 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Inuktik, the cowhocked thing can be corrected to some degree with a corrective trim every 6 weeks like clockwork depending on her age, etc. It probably won't fix it all together but it will help if you get on it during the growing stages and are consistent. If you can find one that doesn't have that issue to begin with you're ahead of the game. It is a conformational fault & it boils down to whether it's something that really bothers you & if you want to deal with it or not, sicle (sp?) hocked horses are another issue all together & I just can't stand to look at 'em.

One thing I would stress, conformational defects can be precursors to injury. Some horses may never be affected in that fashion but it is a predisposition to it.
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Inuktik
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2008 - 12:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks for the information Andrea. We are heading out to see her again today and I will be taking pictures this time, and hopefully some short video clips, of her moving to upload when we get home. I spoke with the vet this am and he indicated that he saw a "small opacity" on one of her hocks that he would like their surgeon to see as he is not an expert in interpreting radiographs. As it is the weekend, and they have had no emergency presentations to the college, no one was in this morning, so we will wait to hear about this on Monday. I realize that I may be sounding like a "nervous nelly" here, but I have been away from horses so long as well as never having any previous experience with warmbloods. I really appreciate all the help that people have been providing, thanks!!}
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jos
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2008 - 1:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

You really don't sound as a 'nervous nellie'[nice!] to me and if you do your homework now the way you do good chance you will not end up to be one because of the horse you bought!
Looking forward to pictures!
Jos
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Elizabeth Kaufman
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2008 - 2:43 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Cow-hocked and base narrow may not be fatal flaws for dressage. Many breeders select for that, since base narrow horses have an easier time with extension. Try bending your knees and taking long jog strides with your legs spread wide and then with them close-- the narrow base of support lets you lengthen your stride w/o losing your balance.

Cow hocks often follow base narrow on a wider-framed horse. They are conformation flaws, but base narrow especially is not a lethal one. It can be tricky for jumping, though I own several base narrow horses who are excellent jumpers, and handy on their feet.

But this all presumes a crystal ball where she fills out properly, gains strength behind, and avoids injury, disease, mental derangement etc.. And I agree that anything significant on the x-rays should be a deal breaker.

If you came to my ranch to look at one of my babies, and told me what you have told us here, I would try hard to talk you out of buying a youngster.
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Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Posted on Saturday, Jul 12, 2008 - 6:42 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

While it is a self evident truth that the legs will grow apart with age Inuktuk, conformation should be evaluated "as is" and "hopes" for improvements should not really factor into it. If the conformation is not acceptable now it could be time to look on. I am not evaluating the horse just want you to think about how you are looking at the decision.

I would note that concerning cow-hocked horses you can not adjust the leg positioning. You can change the rotation of the feet so that they face more forward but this often introduces extra rotational stress to the fetlock.
DrO
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Stacy Upshaw
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Posted on Sunday, Jul 13, 2008 - 8:08 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Inuktik, I have only had the time to lurk on the site of late, but I had to jump in here. Congrats on your return to horse life - personally I am waiting with rabid fever for my two kids to be in school late August so I can have a riding schedule again! That said, of the last three horses I bred, only one fulfilled the promise of his lineage, and he is just returning to work after a year off for injury! Please consider buying a 6 or 7 year old who is already eventing, perhaps at training level? It is a buyer's market right now, so prices are right. I think you could get a show-ready horse for under what you are willing to pay for the filly, and be in competition by September! I wouldn't limit myself to warmbloods as many of the other breeds can do 2cnd or 3d level dressage with no problem. This way, conformation is well on its way to finished, temperment and suitability will be evident, and your risk of injury is less or equal but at least you would get hurt while actually riding! Best wishes, Stacy Upshaw
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jos
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Posted on Sunday, Jul 13, 2008 - 10:50 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Though I love young ones and will be happy to give all the information I can give you I do agree with Stacy.
My young ones are always 'surplus' in a way, if they do not grow into what I want or expect it's not that bad but you would probably have to sell and look again.
Jos
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Inuktik
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Posted on Sunday, Jul 13, 2008 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks again everyone for all of your assistance with this, it is all so appreciated. All of your comments have been so helpful, in their own ways, so please forgive me for not mentioning names and specifics for what I am learning from all of you. We have just gotten home, so I am looking through the pictures we have taken and the owner gave me a cd of footage of the filly as well. We currently live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada and the market here has been holding at the high price end, especially with horses that have training under their belt and are actively competing. I have to admit that I have been drawn to youngsters as I am feeling that I am a good 1 to 2 years from being in the physical shape that I want to be in when back riding and competing. My main concern is weight related as I went back to university at age 39 in a year round 20 month intensive bachelors nursing program. I got the marks, but I found that the "freshman 15 or 20" rule was more than that with myself :-( I really don't want the horse to be carrying more weight then is necessary, and I am sure that the extra weight could affect my leg position as well. My sitting trot wasn't bad when I was younger, but I have to admit that I am shuddering at the thought of doing one right now. I want to apologize for going on and ramblng here, but I am still trying to process and sift through things. I hope that wherever everyone is that the sun is shining and that you have been able to enjoy being with your lovely animals.
Sincerely,
Shelly
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Inuktik
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Posted on Sunday, Jul 13, 2008 - 10:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Okay, here are the pictures. I felt that the easiest way was to send this link, versus posting here and taking up room on the server. Wow, we did so not take good pictures of her. Her "beauty shots," as I refer to them, are taken by her breeder's friend who is a professional and got some great pictures. The cd we currently have is over an hour long and I am so not a technical person, that I am still working on how to save portions of it. Again, I really can't say enough how great you all have been!! Thank you. The link is:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=44465&l=ed090&id=551007107

This second link is of our "boys" (Inukshuk and Tikanni) at 3 months old on their first trip to the mountains. They are extremely fond of their grandparents!!

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=3686&l=e2f9a&id=551007107
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