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Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 703
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 - 8:20 pm: |   |
Hi, I am wondering if anyone is familiar with Patrouchka?
This is the sire of a mare I am considering, on the dam line is TB- Solar Prince and Regal Romper.
I would be using this mare primarily for dressage.
Thank you for all help.
Lori |
Tonya
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Username: pbauer
Post Number: 501
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Monday, Jul 21, 2008 - 8:09 pm: | |
Dear Lori,
I wish I could help you, but really do not know much about Thoroughbreds.
My Very Best,
Tonya |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 709
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Jul 21, 2008 - 9:49 pm: | |
Tonya, as it turns out the mare didn't work out anyway.
Thank you
Where do you get those cute doodles? |
Tonya
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Username: pbauer
Post Number: 502
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 - 1:39 am: | |
Lori,
Sorry for the late reply; it has been a mile a minute around our place.
The doodles come from friends, websites etc., even some from HA!
Hope you have a wonderful weekend~
God Bless,
Tonya |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 770
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, Sep 28, 2008 - 9:23 pm: | |
I am looking at a mare that is 1/2 Arab with these lines.
An Abas Moonshine, Aazkazana, Simcas Barack, Yumeas, Aazkaborro and Starzada
Does anyone have any suggestions for how I could find out if any of these horses have performance records?
Thank you for your help. |
Sara Wolff
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Username: mrose
Post Number: 4069
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, Sep 28, 2008 - 11:28 pm: | |
Hi Lori, although we've bred Arabians for 20+ yrs, I'm unfamiliar with these names. They sound maybe like a Spanish, Polish mix with maybe some Egyptian? We have Egyptians, and I have enough trouble keeping up with that strain!
As to where to find records; If the horses were recorded with USEF you can go to their website and do a horse search. www.usef.org , click on "horse services" then click on "horse results search." If they aren't recored there, you can go to www.arabianhorses.org and do a search there. I find it much harder to find individual horse info there, but you can do a search. You can also call Arabian Horse Association or email them (contact info on the web site) I think there are links there to Arabian racing, too, if any of the horses raced. |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 771
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Sep 29, 2008 - 11:58 am: | |
Thanks Sara, I will try those resources. |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 841
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 - 8:40 am: | |
Ok, how about Argus as a sire? Now I am looking at a cross of Argus and TB.
I know the dam counts but as far as Argus goes does anyone know about him?
thanks |
leslie christian
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Username: leslie1
Post Number: 456
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, Nov 25, 2008 - 5:14 pm: | |
I found an Argus baby(allbreed)named Muskat
heres his race record http://www.ifahr.net/arabian-racehorse.php?mt=7&nr=104165&ld=7
Here are Argus' progeny:
DZIECKO H 2009 ARGUS12 MNISZKA ARABIAN
MIRTA b F 2005 ARGUS12 MATURA2 ARABIAN
MUSKAT C 2004 ARGUS12 MEDINA29 ARABIAN
PRAVDA OS G 2006 ARGUS12 FAYLA2 ARABIAN
WADER C 2005 ARGUS12 WIERSZA ARABIAN |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 845
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, Nov 27, 2008 - 11:02 am: | |
thank you Leslie, it seems there is more than one horse with the same name.
I should have been more specific, the Argus I am looking at is a warmblood.
thank you so much for your help. |
leslie christian
Member
Username: leslie1
Post Number: 460
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, Nov 27, 2008 - 12:35 pm: | |
Hi Lori
I love looking up horses, so do you know his DOB or what kind of WB he is?
L |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 847
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, Nov 27, 2008 - 1:14 pm: | |
He is a Dutch WB. I realize the sire is only half or depending on how you think 40% of the horse but never the less he does has influence so I am wondering about his temperament and dressage ability.
thanks |
leslie christian
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Username: leslie1
Post Number: 461
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, Nov 27, 2008 - 1:41 pm: | |
I will see what I can find...
You know who could help is Jos, she is the queen of knowledge when it comes to the Euro warmbloods. maybe when she gets settled we will ask her to help!
Your right about sire and/or mares giving only half and also what looks good on paper is just that, paper. But I still absolutely love doing this kinda stuff. Woot!!
L |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 849
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, Nov 28, 2008 - 8:08 am: | |
yes, you're right.I was hoping Jos would have time to have a look but she is probably pretty busy moving at the moment.
Sara, how would I find out if a mare is Egyptian?
Are you familiar with this line? R.H.Valyrie?
Thank you |
Sara Wolff
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Username: mrose
Post Number: 4200
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Friday, Nov 28, 2008 - 10:28 am: | |
Leslie, the Muskat you brought up is (was) a very famous Russian Arabian stallion who sired many well known show horses. In his later years he was bought by Taylor Ranch in N. Utah and used as one of their foundation sires well into his late 20's. I believe he is buried there if I remember right. He was beautiful even a year or two before he died.
Lori, I'm confused...an easy state for me this morning since I overslept and am still working on my first cup of coffee. I thought you were looking at a WarmBlood?
You can tell if a horse is Egyptian by the pedigree. Sometimes the close up names are difficult to know, but if followed back and the horse is Egyptian, the names will become familiar and will often have an indicator like "RAS" (Royal Arabian Stud) or "EAO" (Egyptian Arabian Stud)infront of their name. |
leslie christian
Member
Username: leslie1
Post Number: 465
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, Nov 28, 2008 - 8:47 pm: | |
Hey Lori
What kind of horse are you interested in? Strictly dressage or maybe a little jump here and there.
I was looking at COTH and they have a nice thread about stallions that do PSG and upper level show jumping and eventing. |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 851
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, Nov 28, 2008 - 11:11 pm: | |
Sorry Sara, Someone just told me about this so sweet Arab mare so I thought I'd check her out but she is only about 14.3h.
Leslie I am looking primarily for a dressage horse but I am on a restricted budget and I can only look in Canada.
Well, I do sometimes look and dream in other lands but then reality sets in.
thanks |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 870
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 - 10:05 am: | |
for you Quarter horse folks I am wondering what you can tell me about this line of Quarter horse. I wasn't looking for a Quarter Horse but when I saw her I was really struck by her colour so I took a second look.
My Lucky Black Genes, sire, Hug Me Twice, dam-
Jags Drifter (dam sire).
I would want her as an all around horse, some reining, trail, perhaps some competitive trail. I really like the way she is built except for her pasterns, they seem a bit long and upright. And I love her colour! I know thats ba-ad.
thank you for the help. |
leslie christian
Member
Username: leslie1
Post Number: 487
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 - 11:21 am: | |
Hi Lori
I dont know much about the sire as he is bred for color and Ive never been around the paint world much... but the dam side is bred very nice...has a lot of close foundation blood. When I was barrel racing, loved a horse with 3 Bars(speed). And she also had Skipper W who was a superb producer of AQhA world champs. Very Nice
Are you still looking for a dressage horse too?
Leslie
Ps...heres the voice of reason....dont dive in to anything right now as its the buyers market out there. plenty of time to fish around...careful of those pasterns, especially for a horse that will be doing any speed/comp events.
And when that voice of reason says 'I have to have this horse' then enjoy with all your heart, no matter what! |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 872
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Dec 15, 2008 - 12:21 pm: | |
This is a picture of the horse I am looking at.
I wonder if her pasterns are a bit upright and long?
Any thoughts on her conformation anyone? |
leslie christian
Member
Username: leslie1
Post Number: 495
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, Dec 15, 2008 - 3:40 pm: | |
Her feet angles look weird to me.
She is a cutie I can see why you like her. Lovely color |
jos
Member
Username: paardex
Post Number: 1264
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Dec 15, 2008 - 3:57 pm: | |
Hi Lori, As I've settled in I just read your thread and I am SURE this isn't the Argus TB baby so I guess that one is out?
Jos |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 873
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Dec 15, 2008 - 4:07 pm: | |
Hey Jos, glad you're back, you brought a dog and cat with you right? Hope they have settled in fine.
No this isn't the Argus baby, someone scooped me on her.
This is a little girl that I saw while browsing for a dressage horse.
She is a reg apha.
Even if the other horse is gone what do you think of Argus?
Leslie, I thought it was her pasterns but maybe it is her feet? Could be the trim or the way she is set up. |
Sara Miller
Member
Username: sdms
Post Number: 264
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Monday, Dec 15, 2008 - 4:15 pm: | |
Hi Lori. Like Leslie, I don't know much (okay, make that "I don't know anything") about paint breeding. I found a horse named Hug Me Twice on the AQHA site but it's only a 3 year old and has a different sire so maybe it's a different spelling. I did look up Jags Drifter. As with many of the quarter horses if you look far enough back you're going to find some good names. Three Bars was a TB that added tremendously to the QH performance lines. Skipper W was an impressive halter and performance stallion and produced many of the same. I think that's partially due to the fact that he was only bred to Weiscamp mares many of which went back to Old Fred. In the case of Jags Drifter, Skipper W was bred to Brushalong in the 4th generation and Brushalong goes back to Old Fred 3 times in her first 5 generations. Hank Weiscamp's breeding program focused a lot on line breeding.
So, that's my take on the sire's bloodlines from the 4th generation back. I don't know anything about the horses closer up.
As far as her looks and conformation, yep, that buckskin paint is definitely an eye catcher! My personal opinion is that her pasterns have a pretty descent angle. It might be an optical illusion from the way she's standing but it looks like she might have a bit of a straight shoulder. It's hard to tell without a good conformation shot. If that's the case she could be a bumpy ride. Leslie mentioned her feet angles and it's hard to tell but it looks like her front heels might be a bit long and under run.
Well, that's my two cents. Good luck making a decision!
~Sara |
jos
Member
Username: paardex
Post Number: 1266
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Dec 15, 2008 - 4:24 pm: | |
Hi Lori no I brought two dogs this time next time the cat
Argus was a cross of famous showjumperlines but with already so much TB in it that he could have given children with any amount of TB looks to none at all.
Father Pion gave a few dressage horses but also was known for his not always impeccable characters. Jasper[FM ] was a very nice small showjumper with a heart much bigger then his size would let you think! I can still envisage him climbing enormous jumps without fear. Courville was a very good small TB Beautiful heads beautiful inside of heads[See I loved his children does it show?] and the Mothers fathers line gave usually impeccable conformation to[ Pions father Abgar xx didn't]
For a cross with a TB for dressage: Go look at what popped up in the product could be wonderful could be horrible.
I would never have bred Argus because of his pedigree to many 'crosses' to my taste to have an idea of what the result would be but on TB's he could have done very well.[especially if you are looking for a sporthorse and not a broodmare]]
Jos
PS Long pasterns often give much elasticity in the movement. A lot of dressagepeople I've known liked it[the long pasterns if not exaggerated] |
Erika L
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Username: erika
Post Number: 1502
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Monday, Dec 15, 2008 - 6:02 pm: | |
Lori, here is a link to Argus at Cornell University that might interest you:
http://web.vet.cornell.edu/public/cuerp/argus.htm
I don't know if he still stands stud there. I've seen him jump years back, and he was quite well known in Grand Prix.
Erika |
leslie christian
Member
Username: leslie1
Post Number: 496
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, Dec 15, 2008 - 6:13 pm: | |
OOO--Lori,
Your prolly aware of the Can Am sport horse site.(thx Erika) But check this lil guy out---go to the Cancade farms, then horses for sale and then go to # 19. Hes a cutie. And such a cute lil trot on him I love him already! OMGsh!! look at # 33 trot on! LOL go baby go! |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 933
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Jan 19, 2009 - 7:39 pm: | |
me again, Wondering what anyone knows about a Hanaverian sire, Grandferdinand.
and how do you spell Hanavarian? I have seen it spelled about 4 different ways.
thanks |
Holly Wood
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Username: hollyw
Post Number: 36
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, Jan 19, 2009 - 8:09 pm: | |
Hanoverian is what I've seen, Lori, and I don't know the sire. |
jos
Member
Username: paardex
Post Number: 1298
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Jan 19, 2009 - 9:21 pm: | |
Hannover, the Germans say themselves.
Should be from Grande one of the leading sires in Hannover and Ferdinand/Furst Ferdinand I guess. I could look it up for you.
Jos |
leslie645
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Username: leslie1
Post Number: 556
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, Jan 19, 2009 - 9:38 pm: | |
Hanoverian...from a place in Germany called Hanover.
Cant find out much about him...maybe Jos knows. I think he is/was owned by Danielle Price.
Grand Ferdinand II DOB 1977.
Whyyyyy...whatcha' thinkin'
 |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 934
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Jan 19, 2009 - 10:59 pm: | |
Thanks Jos. Is Ferdinand a province in Germany? Sorry, don't know much about it.
I have a line on a granddaughter. Just wondering about the dressage breeding and ridability.
I know some people can tell quite a bit about what to expect from certain lines.
Leslie, cute baby, tell me about him/her. |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 935
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Jan 19, 2009 - 11:13 pm: | |
what do you think?
 |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 936
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Jan 19, 2009 - 11:39 pm: | |
thanks |
leslie645
Member
Username: leslie1
Post Number: 557
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 20, 2009 - 9:22 am: | |
Hi
They are both nice I prefer the bottom one as long as she isnt over at the iknee. (I think its the way she is standing)http://www.equineselect.ca/saleshorses.html
she is a filly from a canadien Hanoverian breeder. She is Harvard X Rio Grande on dams side.
Dont know anything else |
leslie645
Member
Username: leslie1
Post Number: 558
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 20, 2009 - 9:49 am: | |
Here is a Canada m. breeders this one has a 2 year old from Windsor line priced at 4500.
http://raptor.golden.net/~rmonty/salehorses.html
This is an oregon usa breed disperal
An Argus progeny; 2500.00
http://www.onestonefarm.com/html/horses_2002.html
Adreamhorse ad.
http://www.dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=1196788&share_this=Y |
leslie645
Member
Username: leslie1
Post Number: 559
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 20, 2009 - 9:56 am: | |
Look at this guy...errr, read his info
http://www.dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=1204993&share_this=Y |
Ann
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Username: dres
Post Number: 2146
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 20, 2009 - 10:29 am: | |
Leslie I went to the dream horse ad,, and then to the web site.. Funny they list the pedigree of all the horses but this one? Were you able to find out what the Hano lines are?
I noticed they have a lot of Diamont bred horses, I personally love this sire in a pedigree,, I have 4 in my barn that are the greatest horses..
Now stop posting all these horses for sale please.. 
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with sposts.. |
jos
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Username: paardex
Post Number: 1299
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 20, 2009 - 11:37 am: | |
Ferdinand is a name in Germany[quite a few of their royalty was called Ferdinand] It was a well known sire but his son Furst Ferdinand was even better known [I think but these are even for me old lines ] Furst Fedinand did more in showjumping.
Grande did all but both were of a time when they 'did it all'
Saw Grande myself when he was older trotting in front of a ridden stallion on the long reins[the exceptional trotting horses were used for this on shows wouldn't know the English term]
Both were a bit heavy with a bit of a straight croupe but with Canadian lines this undoubtedly will be bred away by TB influence.
They got old without known vet problems[apart from getting fat] and both gave usually nice gentle characters.
Sorry my books are still in France so this is all my memory does at this moment
Jos |
Erika L
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Username: erika
Post Number: 1571
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 20, 2009 - 11:54 am: | |
Jos, you are amazing!
I'm with Ann, though, you guys are killing me with these horses for sale. Keep reminding myself I don't have enough time for the ones I have!
Erika |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 937
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 20, 2009 - 1:51 pm: | |
thanks much Jos. I appreciate the time you take.
I think the top mare is a bit high in the hip, could be the ground.
But I think she has a nicer neck and better neck conection than the bottom mare.
I think the bottom mare has better overall balance.
But the first mare seems to have a lower stifle which is supposed to be good for dressage.
She also appears to have less bulk in front of her shoulder line but again that could be the camera angle.
I would like to be able to see her back legs more clearly.
The bottom mare looks like she has more bone. |
leslie645
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Username: leslie1
Post Number: 560
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 20, 2009 - 4:40 pm: | |
Guys...I need rehab...I cant seem to stop.
Especially when its snowing outside...I think diane E almost got hooked on it too;)
Ann I will look and see what I can find about the dreamhorsae ad.
See! there I go again!<grin>
Stay warm or whatever
LeslieC
PS..what I would give to know what Jos does about the lines and such <sigh> |
leslie645
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Username: leslie1
Post Number: 561
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 20, 2009 - 5:16 pm: | |
Ann
I think she was sold. |
Ann
Member
Username: dres
Post Number: 2147
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 20, 2009 - 5:59 pm: | |
I was just curious WHY they did not post her bloodlines like all the rest.. I don't need another horse.. actually need to unload a horse.. 
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots. |
leslie645
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Username: leslie1
Post Number: 563
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 21, 2009 - 10:11 am: | |
What horse are you unloading? Tell us more Plz |
Ann
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Username: dres
Post Number: 2148
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 21, 2009 - 10:44 am: | |
Leslie, I have a 7 coming 8 year old mare Diamont/Prince Thatch bloodlines as well as Appy.. full sibling to the horse in the profile, much less color tho..
My grand daughter wants a pony and I promised my husband and myself I would not ever again 'over horse' our property.. Thus one has to go.. 
If you are looking you can email me privately..
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots.. |
leslie645
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Username: leslie1
Post Number: 565
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 - 10:34 am: | |
Hi Ann
I think Lori is looking for a warmblood for dressage so maybe she would be interested...but I think she lives in Canada.
I love your horse in the profile Very, very lovely, elegant.
I too am full up on ponies right now.
Leslie |
jos
Member
Username: paardex
Post Number: 1300
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 - 11:07 am: | |
HA is an unlimited source of information isn't it?
Apart from Dr. O and all the studies he makes available to us there will always be at least ONE member having the info you need locked in hers/his memory! Glad my memory can help from time to time!
Jos |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 940
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 - 5:25 pm: | |
you are right Leslie, I am in Canada, too bad its so pricey to bring up a horse. lots of very nice ones down there.
How are you doing Jos? Getting all settled?
How are the horses you have adopted? |
Lori
Member
Username: maggienm
Post Number: 948
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, Jan 26, 2009 - 4:30 pm: | |
More Arab help please,
anyone heard of sh Magnate, Margarita, Nariadni,
Kharga Natashaa, aprelskia
I did try to go to previously recommended sites to search these names however I was unable to find them.
Perhaps I just don't know how to search correctly.
Thank you. |
Sara Wolff
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Username: mrose
Post Number: 4477
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Monday, Jan 26, 2009 - 5:28 pm: | |
Nariadni was a dark chestnut Russian bred stallion once owned by Taylor Ranch in Provo, UT. They bought him after he was getting older, I think. I think he was either Canadian or US National Champion, and I THINK it was in halter. He was ridden saddle seat but I don't know if he was shown saddle seat. He was very pretty and nicely built, not real big but good conformation and beautiful eyes and head. Taylor Ranch might have info on him on their web site as they have a lot of his get, or did at one time.
Margarita is the name of another halter champion, but there may have been more than one Margarita. When a horse is popular, sometimes breeders that have an offspring of the horse will change the name a little so it looks/sounds very similar. I think Magnate was/is a Magnum Psyche baby. HE was several times a National Champion and very pretty' big for an Arab, Chestnut. I' ve seen his offspring,and the ones I've seen look a lot like him. I had heard he was difficult to handle, but this is rumor and I don't know if it's true. He was a fire-ball in the arena, but that doesn't mean he was in real life.
http://www.region17.com/stallionAuction.html has a couple of Magnum Psyche horses with pictures, and a Magnate listed, but no picture.http://www.silveraspenranch.com/Sales/NavahoJoe/ has some info on Magnate. I was wrong. He's a Nariadni son with no relation to Magnum Psyche. Margarita is a Bask bred horse with Khemosabe on the female side. Bask was a multi-national chmapion and a leading sire; Khemo was one of the most influential Arabian studs in modern times. Very pretty and a very good personality. Excellent conformation. He is Kellogg bred. You can look up Kellogg Arabians on line and find out a lot about his blood lines.
If you do a google search by just typing in the horse's name in the search box, you can often find info. |
Holly Wood
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Username: hollyw
Post Number: 57
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, Jan 26, 2009 - 5:42 pm: | |
Ha, ha . . . didn't even have to wonder if Sara Wolff would come up with the answers to this one . . . LOL |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 950
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 27, 2009 - 10:42 pm: | |
Thank you Sara, I really appreciate it.This is a really nice mare. |
leslie645
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Username: leslie1
Post Number: 589
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 27, 2009 - 11:22 pm: | |
Lori
I came across a Canadian breeders website I had saved on my favorites. you may be interested in...They breed Andalusian and some crosses. (Andalusian/Oldenburg) ... Ive talked to Bernice a couple of times when I was looking and she seems like a nice lady. Has some decent stock and it looks like she needs to sell some. 5k http://www.larcoandalusians.com
Their is another Andy Oldie cross on dreamhorse called Zorra dreamhorse ID number: 1186036
Yeah...Im stuck inside during this ice storm.
Leslie |
Sara Wolff
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Username: mrose
Post Number: 4479
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 27, 2009 - 11:24 pm: | |
She certainly has good bloodlines. The Khemosabe offspring, btw, are known for their performance ability and good personalities. I think all the Kellogg bred horses are. My first Arab was Kellogg bred and he was wonderful. All the Khemo breds have met have been lovely. The Bask line is also a good performance line from what I've heard. I know they've done well in the show ring, quite a few of them in saddle-seat classes.
I met Nariadni. He had the most wonderful, deep eyes; very soulful. He was quite old when I met him,but I liked him. He had something very special about him. |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 953
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 27, 2009 - 11:45 pm: | |
thanks Leslie will check it out.
Sara,
which horse of the mares pedigree is from the Khemo line?
Would you say the breeding is halter,performance,endurance?
thank you. |
leslie645
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Username: leslie1
Post Number: 590
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jan 27, 2009 - 11:52 pm: | |
OOO to bad you cant import this guy from kansas!Hes only 5k!! He is Irish and Hanoverian!
Check his bloodlines out;)
Winchester is a gorgeous blood bay (e-mail current pics) Irish sport Horse by the 17hh Hanoverian stallion Windsor (Deceased) and is out of our fully appproved Irish sport Horse mare (RIDSH) Just Foolin who was imported in utero from Ireland. Winchester's sire is by Wendland (Wendekreis x Grisettchen) and is out of the dam Walburgis (Weitblick x Bunette). Wendland who is by Wendekreis is the sire of 45 approved sons and his offspring are competing in Grand Prix Show Jumping and dressage. Windsor's Grand Dam is Bunette by Busonixx who produced the double Olympic medalist Gigolo ridden by Isabel Werth. The colt's dam Just Foolin is a fully approved mare who scored very well at her inspection. She is by the Dutch Grand Prix International Show Jumper Maltstriker who stood at Kennedy Equine Centre in Ireland. Maltsriker is fully approved with the KWPN and IHB and won over 30 grand prix's before retiring completly sound. Just Foolin's dam is a premium RID mare (Ballyard Katie) who is also the dam to the RID stallion KEC Double Diamond. Ballyard Katie is by Creggan Diamond who goes back to the famous King Of Diamonds line, Laughton, Ben Purple (Custom Made's Grand sire) and many other well known proven Irish lines. All in All this a super well bred colt who has the looks, temperament and conformation to do well in the competition ring. We feel with his movement and conformation he would do very well as a hunter or equitation horse. REDUCED PRICE ONLY GOOD UNTIL APRIL 2009! |
Sara Wolff
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Username: mrose
Post Number: 4480
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 12:52 am: | |
http://www.equinehits.com/horses-for-sale/horse-235146 Is this the mare you are looking at? If so, I read the owners "blurb" and she says the horse has "old Polish" lines. I'd have to do some actual research to see where these lines are. Nariadni was Russian bred. That said,it really doesn't matter. You aren't buying a horse to breed. Many warmblood breeders cross with Arabians to gain endurance in their horses. What strain of Arabian isn't important. One thing all Arabians have in common, regardless of their breeding, is endurance!
I appologize; when I looked at the pedigree on the
Silver Aspen Ranch site I mentioned, I mis-read the pedigree and thought Khemosabi was on the line for SH Magnate; instead it was for the dam, Christalina. And, here I was raving about Khemo! (He was something, though.)
In general, a well bred Arabian with good conformation can excell in more than one discipline. Many have been halter and performance champions and also have raced or won endurance events. Arabians naturally have LOTS of endurance. Nariadni offspring are doing all the above, as well as being just family horses; the same is true of Bask horses.
I'm going to have to renew my membership for the arabianhorses.org research site. |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 954
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 8:51 am: | |
thanks again Sara, the only reason I am hesitating with her is she is only 15.2.
I remember my Aunt talking about Khemo, she liked him also.
Leslie you are teasing me... I had a look at Zorra, she is 10 and not broke. hmmm |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 955
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 9:00 am: | |
Leslie, did you check out the video of Larco Lemoto on the sale page?
I didn't like the way he moved but maybe it is simply because I do not have a properly trained eye?
Would love some feedback on his movement. |
Nancy Kiester
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Username: albionsh
Post Number: 115
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 11:25 am: | |
Are you still open to looking at other horses? I have four of them listed on equine.com.
http://www.equine.com/search_results.aspx?uname=AlbionlaneSH
I value all advice on confirmation/value...... |
jos
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Username: paardex
Post Number: 1301
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 2:14 pm: | |
I found an arab that appealed to me very much at 'dreamhorse.com'[I know I have said I won't start again but in the end I guess I will fall for one horse or other ] she is called Shar Tahl AE. Sara? I tried to send the add to you for advice but obviously didn't succeed.
Jos |
Holly Wood
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Username: hollyw
Post Number: 69
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 2:28 pm: | |
Hey, Jos,
What's the internet address for the page?
(blow some warmth to the east, please) |
jos
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Username: paardex
Post Number: 1302
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 2:45 pm: | |
I'll blow you sunshine! Well it's DreamHorse.com[Oh and I just found a TB with a very good pedigree to breed showjumpers!]
Jos |
Lori
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Username: maggienm
Post Number: 956
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 2:59 pm: | |
Jos, she is absolutely georgeous! |
Holly Wood
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Username: hollyw
Post Number: 70
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, Jan 28, 2009 - 3:46 pm: | |
Here's the AE (Arabian Empire) Barn page for her:
http://www.arthorse.com/R/AE/shar.html |
