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Alicia Moore
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Username: aannk

Post Number: 875
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, Sep 9, 2008 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

So, Dillon went to his dutch keuring today. He got first place out of the hunter foals, but second premium. They didn't say anything bad about him, that he had sufficient bone, moved very well in hunter type, had a good topline and a pretty face, and a long enough back, and said he fit the type for hunter well, but then ended the commentary by saying, "but we give him second premium". I don't quite get it. When they are old enough for a score, will I then get more info?
He was very good, quiet as usual, the best behaved baby there by far. He did get a bit frazzled by the others antics, but calmed down quickly and was quiet for the ride there and back and for getting braided for the first time. I was really pleased with him.
Alicia
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Ann
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Post Number: 1980
Registered: 10-2000
Posted on Tuesday, Sep 9, 2008 - 11:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Great job Dillon.. second premium is nothing to sneeze at.. Alicia are your goals hunter? Remember this is only 5 mins of a colts life that the inspectors see, You boy has many more mins in his life to be a spectacular sport horse..

On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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jos
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Post Number: 1112
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008 - 6:00 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Usually second premium means'no stud quality' and with a TB mother that would have been very rare[usually studs are supposed to have a lot of bone and 'stallion outlook' and that from the point of view of WB s]
When they go up for acceptance [or to the stallion keuring] as 3 year old you should get a paper with noted strong and less strong points.
But even then everything can be good and still second premium, most of the time because they are all over good but never outspoken exceptional. You are supposed to ride them to the point of exceptional!
Good results Alicia! Second premium from TB mare is good they don't look at them from TB or cross TB point of view which he is and what should give him extra qualities as a performance horse!
Jos
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Elizabeth Kaufman
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Post Number: 637
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008 - 11:51 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Alicia,

Good for you and Dillon. Sounds like an overall excellent result, and it isn't fun to live with the warmblood stud quality temperament....

We have a saying in NoCo, actually we were talking about a human male but it comes from keuring: "sometimes Merit goes Premium under saddle."

So, umm, what jos was saying is absolutely true. And my merit-foal Holsteiner mare recently beat a mare in competition who was once the highest scoring US-bred premium Holsteiner on record.

So be proud!
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Alicia Moore
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Username: aannk

Post Number: 876
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008 - 2:09 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am TOTALLY proud, especially of how he handled himself. I just would like to know the reason. I guess he wasn't "outstanding" as he didn't act up and didn't prance around like a lot of the babies did, but that is a GOOD thing in a hunter (yes, Ann, I want a hunter :-) ;)
Thanks for the info, and I think you guys might be right in the why (nothing wrong, but not outstanding). I called the KWPN-NA, and they said it might have to do with the "just squeaking by of acceptance of the hunter type" still strong overseas and suggested I contact the jury. I did so, and will let you guys know if the guy I e mailed responds.
Alicia
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