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Shannon
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Username: stek

Post Number: 300
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I recently found a way to tie horses that pull back I wanted to share. Please note this is not a way to tie them securely, but to be used for training for the horse that consistently pulls back when tied fast. The functionality is similar to the blocker tie ring, only it's free!

Since a picture is worth a thousand words, here you go:

pull back tie

Basically you take your lead through a tie ring, wind it around itself, and voila! Note this only works well if the tie ring is level with or above the horse's head and you are using a pliable lead. I use the cheapo thick cotton kind, I don't think the nylon kind would give you enough friction. The friction of the rope against itself is what creates resistance when horses pull back. The more times you wind the rope around itself, the more friction is created.

You can test it yourself by pulling back on the end the horse is attached to, for me half a dozen 'winds' works well for a horse that pulls back hard. The longer the lead is you're using, the less likely the horse will get to the end when they pull back.
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leslie645
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Username: leslie1

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Posted on Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 - 1:54 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

cool.
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boots
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Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 - 5:29 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank You! I will try it on my "Halter Puller" mare. She can't be cross tied. I use a quick release tie, but this may be easier.
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Shannon
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Username: stek

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Posted on Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 - 6:58 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Please let me know how it goes boots, I have used this on a few horses with good results but would like to hear the results of more field testing :-)
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Vicki Z
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Username: vickiann

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Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Sunday, Sep 13, 2009 - 8:36 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I will experiment with this on Lance who does well if allowed just a little give when he pulls back.

The Blocker Tie Ring has worked well for tying him on camping trips.

One thing to be aware of with the tie ring though, (this would probably not apply to this tying method) is to be sure that there is not some kind of knot or lump at the end of your rope that prevents it from sliding through the ring, in which case if the horse does pull it all the way to the end, there can be an accident where the horse becomes tangled in a rope that will not give.
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Lilo
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Posted on Monday, Sep 14, 2009 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am a blocker tie ring fan, but this seems like a good alternative. I use the smooth yachting rope (Parelli style) so I would have to experiment to find out how many loops it takes.
Lilo
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Erika L
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Username: erika

Post Number: 1903
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, Sep 14, 2009 - 8:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Am I the only one who doesn't get this? I have one mare who is a Houdini. She will pick any latch, untie almost any knot. If I don't tie her tight, she will simply pull slowly until the rope is loose and leave.

So...I tie her tight with a quick release knot where she can't get ahold of the end to undo it. Anything else is simply not tied!

Why do I feel that a horse "tied" like this, or with the blocker ring would just go on its merry way? Do y'all have horses that give up quickly? Or do I just have one smart horse?
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leslie645
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Username: leslie1

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Posted on Monday, Sep 14, 2009 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

LOL
I never leave mine alone on the tie ring...otherwise she would just walk away. I just hook her up when Im saddleing and stuff nearby.
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dieliz
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Username: dsibley

Post Number: 180
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Monday, Sep 14, 2009 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I think the purpose of the 'blocker' ring, and this method, is not necessarily to keep the horse secure but to teach him to stand tied without a panic situation. Horses who don't have issues are not candidates and shouldn't be tied this way, as...yes...they will just walk away. I start all my youngsters with the blocker, gradually increasing the resistance, until I can trust them to stand. Then I progress to cross ties, but never trust them alone for a long, long time. Some horses may never be trustworthy in cross ties.

Thanks for the alternative tie method. It looks so simple. Why can't I think of that stuff??
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Erika L
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Username: erika

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Posted on Monday, Sep 14, 2009 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Aha! Now I get it. Thanks for the explanation dieliz!
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Shannon
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Username: stek

Post Number: 302
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yes thanks dieliz, this is absolutely not intended to be used to tie a horse securely, only to be used as a training tool.

Though I have to admit I have taken to 'tying' my gelding who stands tied well this way while I'm tacking up, grooming etc just because it's so easy and safe, in the even of an accident he can get loose if he has to. Kinda like the cowboy's horse tied up to the hitching rail with just a couple loops of rein. But again I only use it when I'm standing right there.

It is surprising though how much friction can be created with the right kind of rope, I have to pull really hard to get it to give. It can be done up fairly loose with one or two winds, or with a lot to the point where the horse really does think he's tied.
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