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Martha L. Moore
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Username: Gldilox
Post Number: 2
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 - 3:53 pm: |   |
This is an odd question to put here, but it has to do with my pursuit of a better seat at the canter.
Sorry about this, Dr. O, but I need to know if anyone has used those specialized panties sold in the rider clothing catalogues. I currently wear thong undies under my riding tights and am experiencing chafing on my posterior as I improve my canter seat. I've seen padded undies (really don't want to add more padding back there), moisture wicking undies, even $30 thongs. Do these work?
Or do you just go "bareback?" Any advice, however delicately phrased, would be welcome. |
Ann
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Username: Dres
Post Number: 586
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 - 4:24 pm: | |
I am thinking that the thong underwear might be good for no panty lines or chafing between thigh and leg, but the 'crease of you butt' might get sore if you are learning a deep seat... thus I would suggest wearing solid cotton undies, my grand daughter calls them granny panties... also use Destin on your chafed spots.. works great and heals as well....on really hot days dust your panties with baby powder... hope this helps...
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with SPOTS.. |
Fran C
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Username: Canter
Post Number: 279
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 - 4:27 pm: | |
Hi Martha,
I haven't tried the undies specifically for riding horses, but I tried the bicycle type and found that the more material in the undies, the more material ended bunched up in...ahem...delicate places (sorry, everyone) and the more uncomfortable they were. For me, a newer pair of regular bikinis (without stretched out elastic, which tends to happen when you're too busy riding to go buy new stuff )under a good pair of full seat breeches does the trick. I can't imagine wearing a thong (ouch!).
Good Lord...I can't believe I'm discussing my underwear preference on the  internet!! |
Gill Bridgeman
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Username: Gillb
Post Number: 90
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 - 5:08 pm: | |
Can't imagine riding in a thong EEEK!!! Someone likened it to sitting astride a cheesewire!!! Give me good old granny pants any day ...  |
JoDeen Levanger
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Username: Jodeen
Post Number: 33
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 - 5:50 pm: | |
I don't ride in riding pants myself, mostly wranglers, but again with everyone else. EEK's on the thongs and riding, I can't even handle them on a daily basis. I have found for me, that if I wear a nice pair of biking shorts under my jeans it helps with both the posterior and inner thigh chaffing. I remember my grandma telling me the tighter the jeans the less chaffing I will have. And that seems to hold true. My poor son, who loves to wear the baggy jeans, had to learn that the hard way after pushing cows for 10 hours in baggy pants. LOL now he even has one pair of tight wranglers to ride in. Good luck on your quest. |
Martha L. Moore
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Username: Gldilox
Post Number: 3
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 - 9:07 pm: | |
So I get the idea - ditch the thongs!
My first experience with the, um, chafing, was during a field trail when I rode a former Florida State Canter Champion Tenn Walker and we cantered. All. Day. Long. I was with a bunch of guys and dared not bring up the subject of my sore bum during the long ride home.
I'll get some Desitin tomorrow and try the baby powder in the panties. It's very hot and humid here in Florida so I think I'll try a pair in the moisture wicking fabric - full coverage of course. |
LL
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Username: Frances
Post Number: 154
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, Aug 26, 2005 - 9:17 am: | |
Well, somebody has to speak up for the poor old thong, so here goes! I think thongs for riding are the best thing since sliced bread, and have been wearing them for the last ten years. That said, I have to admit that I combine them with a sheepskin seat saver (LOVE those too!) |
Angie Judson
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Username: Ajudson1
Post Number: 263
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, Aug 26, 2005 - 3:26 pm: | |
Well, ya. With a sheepskin seat saver I could ride nude. But I'm with the others on the thong, YUCK. Nice full coverage panties, cotton with a touch of stretch. And jeans, anything that fits well that has a bit of stretch to it. I'm trying to get myself to use the full seat breeches, but it seems like you have to be 5'10" tall, and about 120 pounds to look good in them!!Guess I'm just a granny panty blue jean girl. |
Sharlene Roberts-Caudle
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Username: Roberts
Post Number: 16
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, Aug 26, 2005 - 5:06 pm: | |
From the list I'm on, I suspect that more women endurance riders have just given up on underwear and go without than one would guess. |
Fran C
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Username: Canter
Post Number: 280
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Friday, Aug 26, 2005 - 5:07 pm: | |
Angie, I love full seat breeches, but as far as I'm concerned, someone could be 5' 10" and 85 lbs soaking wet and STILL look fat in them. I just bought a pair of white ones as I was going to show in September (dressage), and ugh! it was as painful as trying on a bathing suit, under flourescent lights, without a tan....Besides, whoever thought white breeches were a good idea, anyway?!?!?! |
Martha L. Moore
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Username: Gldilox
Post Number: 4
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Friday, Aug 26, 2005 - 5:58 pm: | |
Full seat breeches have never been a favorite of mine, let alone WHITE breeches. At our local schooling shows, I try to wear just light colored knee patch breeches. Aside from the fact that white flatters only a few skinny girls, it's just that much harder to get up on the horse (and in the case of my young gelding, get back off in a hurry). I do wear them to show my TWH in saddleseat classes, however.
I think I just need some coverage back there so I don't get the "cheese wire" effect. Either that or skip them all together like the endurance riders. |
Stacy Upshaw
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Username: 36541
Post Number: 69
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 - 11:16 am: | |
I find nylon panties with a cotton insert(Hanes) move a lot better under my full seat breeches. The full cotton grannies tend to grab on the suede side of the breech leather and create too much moving around. When really sitting on my pelvis, not tucking my tailbone under, the thought of a thong might be a little indecent... |
Ann
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Username: Dres
Post Number: 588
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 - 1:25 pm: | |
oh yes the nylon works well, but can be very hot too... I buy the full seat pant that the leather is lined so it does not grab...EQUISSENTIALS...
WWW.equissentials.net
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with SPOTS.. |
Sherri L. Hueser
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Username: Tangoh
Post Number: 567
Registered: 3-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 - 9:26 am: | |
Well, since we're all discussing our undies, I may as well jump in. A while back this very same discussion came up around a campfire. We all ride western here and so naturally the jean of choice is Wranglers. And under the Wranglers....ahem....well...nothing works best to be honest. Most of us, some of the men we ride with included....ride totally commando. Now don't knock it 'til you've tried it! |
Imogen Bertin
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Username: Imogen
Post Number: 698
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 - 10:33 am: | |
I want to know if those expensive riding bras are worth the money - anyone bought them? I use sports bras anyway but they don't quite hack it when you are getting a dressage lesson from one of those inevitably gay trainers that doesn't like bouncing boobs...
Imogen |
Ann
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Username: Dres
Post Number: 592
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 - 10:48 am: | |
Imogen , I wear the cheaper spots bra too.. my husband says it the UNABOOB look...
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with SPOTS.. |
D.
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Username: Dyduroc
Post Number: 181
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 - 11:09 am: | |
Imogen, I'm a 'full figured' woman and bought a Sporteze Minimal Bounce Bra II a few years ago (with front zipper). True, it was expensive but it was worth every penny! When they say minimal bounce, they mean it!
D. |
Christine C. Mills in NC
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Username: Chrism
Post Number: 1096
Registered: 4-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 - 2:59 pm: | |
You can buy a glide product at your local runner's or bicycle outfitter's store that helps prevent rubs.
There is also a product out there that is specifically for "avoiding Monkey Butt."
However, I have found that if the saddle is too small for my posterior, or my riding position is inadequate, I am more likely to experience rubs.
I also find that cotton holds moisture and that can add to the probability of a rub. You want new age fabrics that wick moisture away.
My rec is the "panty fair" style of rider's panties that have no seams and come 3 in a pack for about $10. My second rec is to buy nylon undies with minimal to no seams and wear them inside out to get the cotton away from you - Warner's "Stripes" work well for this.
This is from someone who wears English style breeches, but hates full seats. |
Sue G
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Username: Warwick
Post Number: 180
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 - 3:59 pm: | |
I only ever ride in full seat breeches and have never had a problem with rubs regardless of the type of undies however some are definitely more comfy to wear than others. I ditto the 100% cotton holding moisture and I agree that the Hanes silky nylon with cotton insert are good.
However several years ago a good friend (in her late 50s - not that there is anything wrong with that!) mentioned that she only ever rode in a thong. After picking my lower jaw up off the floor, I told her I wouldn't be caught dead in one. But she convinced me to try one as an experiment. Being a rather self-conscious, conservative type, I donned a disguise and headed out to the local Walmart underware department. Well all I can say is I was blown away - they really are great to ride in! Now they are my riding undie of choice and I always show in them as they work perfectly under white breeches. And voila! panty lines are a thing of the past.
I challenge all skeptics to do what I did and try them just once and see if you have a change of heart.
Of course there are two very important considerations to remember with thongs. First, unless you are built like Jennifer Aniston stay well away from mirrors. If you are even slightly tempted to take a peek cover the mirror with a sheet before ever donning the thong. Second (and this is MOST important) NEVER let your husband see you in one. Could put a serious damper on the whole marriage thing. |
Ann
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Username: Dres
Post Number: 593
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 - 4:21 pm: | |
''Second (and this is MOST important) NEVER let your husband see you in one. Could put a serious damper on the whole marriage thing.''
my husband would think I was having an affair, all tho I work / ride in my own backyard, he would be very sure I was wearing ''pretty'' undies for the the the farrier....
On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with SPOTS.. |
Holly Zukowski
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Username: Dakota04
Post Number: 27
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 - 6:36 pm: | |
I wear thongs to ride in under my wranglers and except for a few times when they were less than comfortable, no problems and didn't feel like cheesewire either. I think I have a phobia against panty lines, can't stand them. I've ridden commando but I can't say it's comfortable. |
Fran C
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Username: Canter
Post Number: 283
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 8:35 am: | |
Oh Dear!! I'm laughing my (thongless) butt off thinking about 2 years from now when a hapless new member stumbles upon this thread by accident... |
Angie Judson
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Username: Ajudson1
Post Number: 264
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 9:00 am: | |
Ladies,
If my husband knew I was riding in a thong, I'd get pulled of the horse and into the haybarn!! Seriously, I am not heading off to Wal-Mart in disguise, or shopping from Fredericks for riding clothes. But I do have a question:
What is the most comfortable, and jean/breech/tight to wear? Since watching my daughter take English riding lessons, and using a Wintec Aussie saddle myself, I've been wondering about going past the "bluejeans only" to ride in. But all the breeches/tights seem to made outa material that just doesn't seem right for the barn. I mean, I can see being all dressed up in those fancy stretchy bottems if my personal groom brought the horse to my back door all tacked up, but except for a few times my husband did that, it ain't gonna happen!! I can't imagine handling hay in those things, and even the horse hair must stick.
So, Wranglers with stretch? Any specific kind?
What's the most practical breech or tight? What material? What's the difference between the 2?
What about warmth? Cost? Don't want to spend anymore than I have to.
And fit? I am short waisted, most of the my weight is between my lower rib and knees!! (NOPE, not posting a picture)
Right now I ride either in some stretchy jeans from Wal Mart, or Lee jeans with elastic in the waistband, from Goodwill. The first are those silly low riding ones, o.k. when you are in your teens, but don't care for them now. The second ones are just so bulky.
P.S., I tried to put only one word in bold print, not the whole paragraph. |
Carol Tank-Day
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Username: Caroltd
Post Number: 18
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 9:33 am: | |
Angie/Ladies:
I too have been following this thread (and laughing, mostly at myself) because I've had this question and been afraid to ask. So now I have some information to go on.
Angie, about the breeches...I ride in them and wear them in the barn for whatever tasks I need to do...be that mucking stalls, washing horses, cleaning tack, etc. I like the ones that pull on (easier when your older and "not so slim anymore"). You can get them in various weights, and rises and the fabric is a lot tougher than you might think.
They are very comfortable to ride in...I find them a lot less binding than jeans (even jeans with stretch).
Carol |
Sherri L. Hueser
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Username: Tangoh
Post Number: 577
Registered: 3-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 10:56 am: | |
Angie,
Wranglers with stretch - has anyone tried the new Wrangler Aura jeans? They are low rise jeans, verrryyyyy comfortable. They come in a variety of colors. I own a black and a blue pair. One word of advice, when trying them on make sure you take 2 to 3 sizes smaller than you would normally wear. I don't know if they're sized to make us feel good or what, but hey...it works...I like buying size 10 jeans, when normally I would wear a 14. They are sized this way, from 0 to 20 I think, and they come in different leg lengths, but these Wrangler Aura jeans are fabulous!!!!
Even Oprah wears 'em!!!!
Another good stretch denim jean is Mustang jea |
Holly Wood
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Username: Hwood
Post Number: 779
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 11:19 am: | |
Helmet Helpers has a very nice heavy weight, pull-on, cotton/lycra riding breech with equi-suede that I have worn for chores and riding during all kinds of weather. Hay brushes off quite easily. Haven't found it to be a problem. I wouldn't unload and stack hay in them, but feeding out in them hasn't ever been a problem. |
Sara Wolff
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Username: Mrose
Post Number: 853
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 11:31 am: | |
Ahhh...the extra problems women have to deal with!
My favorite to ride in are cotton/lycra schooling tights I get from Dover (even when riding western.) Jeans are too bulky. I do wear jeans when cleaning the barn, haying, etc. The Auras are really comfortable, but I'm partial to just regular Wrangles as I think they are cooler. In the winter I wear wool long johns under jeans, or if it's really cold I wear those very attractive, slimming Carhart overalls. For riding in the winter it is hard to beat winter weight, fleece lined breeches and tall insulated riding boots. |
Sherri L. Hueser
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Username: Tangoh
Post Number: 578
Registered: 3-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 12:01 pm: | |
Interesting, this thread. I've always thought that us 'western rider' types have it all wrong. Here we are, riding in skin tight wranglers that bind, and leather boots, heck...leather everything that get wet in the rain. Once on a trail ride I was chatting with the gal riding english beside me. It was raining of course, and she was completely dry in her nice high rubber riding boots and light weight attire. We both had slickers on but even still I think she was dryer....hmmm...maybe us 'western types' need to take a lesson in proper attire from you english gals.
That said, I wouldn't trade my wranglers and ropers, 32 lb. Billy Cook saddle, beaver felt cowboy hat and suede chaps for all the common sense in the worl |
Martha L. Moore
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Username: Gldilox
Post Number: 5
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 12:57 pm: | |
I had no idea that there was such a need for this thread!
My recent favorite riding tight is by Irideon - lots of Lycra and flattering seaming. They actually do feel cooler than other breeches/ tights (they make gear for cold weather as well). They cost around $69 per pair but I've bought them on Ebay for less.
They also make a nice "Irideon Issentials Sport Tank" which is similar to a sports bra and works great for those of us with smaller busts. I've never had to worry about anything bouncing around during my ride - other that my pony tail while I show saddleseat (my trainer makes sure it is pinned within an inch of its life so that my TWH appears smoothly gaited). |
Fran C
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Username: Canter
Post Number: 284
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 1:26 pm: | |
Angie,
I wear my breeches all the time,and no groom hands my horse to me (although every once in a while, that would be nice). I find them more comfortable than jeans and I've had several pairs for at least 3 years. How you're built, will probably determine which type is most comfortable. I prefer a high wasted Ariat breeche. Another favorite is the highwaisted Cambria breeches. Both are comfortable enough to wear all year around. Both these brands have served me well in the saddle, mucking stalls, grooming, raking out the arena. And, if I take a moment to brush them off, I can even run to the store and not look too much like a geek. I would recomend black as they tend to be more flattering than the lighter colors. Even tho most breeches come with special wash instruction, I don't have time for that, so I just throw them in the washer, reg cycle, cold water with Wisk detergent and hang them to dry. My favorite Ariat breeches still look like new and I've had them for several years. |
Sue G
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Username: Warwick
Post Number: 181
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 2:19 pm: | |
I only wear full seat breeches and do everything in them from riding, mucking, slinging hay, grocery shopping, you name it. It really depends on the fabric finish as to the "stickability" of hay, hair, etc. I find that the lighter cotton/lycra 3 way stretch fabric is less "stickable" than the heavier nylon/lycra blend.
I have a mix of Pikeur, Arista and Millers in all sorts of colours, fabrics and patterns. Years ago Pikeur full seats were made with real leather but in recent years they have switched to the fake clarino leather and it's horrible. Doesn't hold up nearly as well and gives a very different feel. It's too bad as a couple of the Pikeur styles fit short-waisted people like me really well but I'm sick of paying high prices for fake leather. Arista uses real leather and they make a really nice breech in the same price range as Pikeur. Unfortunately Millers went out of business but they did make a very comfortable pleated front breech - albeit with a clarino seat - but the price was over $150 less than either Pikeur or Arista.
I machine wash mine in cold water with lots of liquid conditioner added and then hang to dry. Some of my oldest Pikeurs are over 15 years old and still look like new using this washing method. You can buy special detergent/conditioner from tack shops but it's very expensive and does no better job than the cheaper method. |
Holly Zukowski
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Username: Dakota04
Post Number: 28
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 2:59 pm: | |
Sherri, where can I get those Wrangler Aura jeans? I haven't seen them advertised in the catalogs I get. |
Dennis Taylor
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Username: Dtranch
Post Number: 135
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 3:18 pm: | |
Wow .... am I glad I am a man.
Wranglers pretty much of any kind ... and they last forever. That plus my undies with the least amount of holes in them. You may have ruined it for me though as I will probably be checking out every woman I ride with now and wonder what they are wearing ... especially underneath!
DT |
Angie Judson
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Username: Ajudson1
Post Number: 265
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 3:40 pm: | |
Thank you all so much!! I have been reading the descriptions in Dover catalog, and it just had my head spinning! Now I will do a web search for some of these other brands as well.
Holly,
I think I tried on a pair of Aura jeans at a Fleet Farm store in MN when we were visiting the kids. I didn't like the specific ones I tried that day, but I have liked Wrangler in the past, just can't buy them locally any more.
Millers went out of business?
What about Drysdales, don't they have Wranglers? I used to get their catalogs, I am off to search for their web site too.
Sue,
thanks for pointing out the difference concerning the fake leather. I think my daughters Kerrits brand tights must have that. I didn't think it looked too tough. She loves the tights though, and I even tried on a pair. Just was afraid to come outa the dressing room in them!!! I guess if we can ride in them sexy, slimming Carharts as Sara points out, (with insulated boots, oversized stirrups, gloves, and a flatterning orange vest) I should get over how I look in tights or breeches.
Sara,
If I may ask, what insulated riding boots are you referring to? I tried a pair a few yrs back, but returned them. They were ONLY for riding and would not of held up for any thing else. I was thinking of just getting some Muck boots. I don't really ride too much in the winter anyhow.
I am getting way too fussy in my old (er) age. But it is paying off, I had 2 wonderful rides this morning. (pat, pat, grin) Thanks to everyone here and their great advice, and of course the clinicians on tv.
Now, I just have to figure out how to dress myself! tee hee. |
Angie Judson
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Username: Ajudson1
Post Number: 266
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 3:42 pm: | |
I just knew the men were reading this too!!! Only one brave enough to comment!! |
Sue G
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Username: Warwick
Post Number: 182
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 3:49 pm: | |
Very naughty, Dennis, reading a "For Girls Only" thread! I think even Dr O admitted to steering clear of this one!
And what is it with men and "holey" underware? If I didn't purge my husband's underware drawer from time to time, he'd wear them until there was more hole than thread. Must be a male thing. |
Sue G
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Username: Warwick
Post Number: 183
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 3:51 pm: | |
Angie, it was Millers clothing up here in Canada that went out of business. I can't speak for the rest of the product line though. |
Martha L. Moore
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Username: Gldilox
Post Number: 6
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 3:56 pm: | |
So Dennis - boxers or briefs? And they make thongs for men, you know... |
Sherri L. Hueser
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Username: Tangoh
Post Number: 579
Registered: 3-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 4:08 pm: | |
Holly,
Our local tack stores carry them, but I would think that any store that sells the regular Wranglers would have the Aura jeans. I went to the Wrangler.com website but the link to the Aura jeans is broken, at least on my computer, but I did find other sites when I just typed in Wrangler Aura jeans in my search engine. This is one of them: http://www.denimexpress.com/aura-jeans-wu0341bp.html
They suggest one size smaller, but seriously, I'd suggest at least two, if not three sizes smaller than you normally wear. They are great! |
Dennis Taylor
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Username: Dtranch
Post Number: 136
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 4:11 pm: | |
Hey now ... it's not my fault.
This came to me as a training issue ... "help with the canter" ... still trying to figure that one out.
But, as I say .. you never stop learning in the horse business, just didn't know my knowledge base would get so "rounded" so to speak. And now, I have another topic I can help my clients with .. eh.
As for the holey shorts, I didn't know there was such a thing as underwear without holes actually.
DT |
Dennis Taylor
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Username: Dtranch
Post Number: 137
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 - 4:31 pm: | |
Martha ... at 6'3" and 225 pounds, I'm sure that thong would be right up my .... alley. Guess I'll just stick to the briefs. Y'all got me wond |
