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Liliana Velasco Ariza
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Username: Liliana5
Post Number: 2
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, Oct 13, 2005 - 7:46 pm: |   |
Hi all,
We have a new colt in the yard he was born June 6th has already experienced a hurracane Emely the B..ch.
He already understands picking his feet and accepts his head collar but, question is I am teaching to tie up but do not want him to get injured. Do you have any proven tips.
Thank you very much in advance
Liliana
P.S. I will try and upload a pic |
Liliana Velasco Ariza
New Member
Username: Liliana5
Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, Oct 18, 2005 - 8:24 pm: | |
Hello anybody there?
Surely someone has something to tell me about this subject pleeeeeze His brother Ulemba turned out very sweet tempered but so spoiled that now he is very stubborn...
Anyone please???? |
Sara Wolff
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Username: Mrose
Post Number: 947
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, Oct 18, 2005 - 8:50 pm: | |
Gosh, Liliano, I just saw your post. Must have read right over it. What breed is your foal? He's very cute!
IMO-he's too young to actually tie. What I do when they are this young is loop the lead around a stall rail or something similar and hold the loose end in my hand. This way I can keep pressure on so he gets used to it, but let it up a little when it gets scarey for him. I use a soft cotton rope and while he is "tied" I pick up feet, brush him, etc. I know there are those who disagree with this method but it has worked good for me. I' afraid of putting too much stress on their necks when they are so young. |
Nancy Sullivan
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Username: Sully
Post Number: 34
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, Oct 18, 2005 - 9:56 pm: | |
You could put a good strong rope between two trees...15 to 20 feet up and 20 or more feet apart and then run your tie rope down from the middle of this. That way there are no walls to climb or anything to get hung up on. You don't want the rope he's tied to be too long...just give him a little extra, but not a whole lot. This also will "give" a lot so its not like tying to something solid. For even more give, incorporate some sort of a bunge type in the tie rope. If trees are not an option, I have used rafters in the barn to take the place of the trees. Clint Anderson also has a product that gives as much as you want, by the way you rig it up...you might go to his web site and check that out.
Nancy |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: Dro
Post Number: 13941
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, Oct 19, 2005 - 7:01 am: | |
I too missed your first post Liliana. We describe the above and other methods for teaching horses to tie safely at Training Horses » Training Your Horse's Mind » Halter Training and Tying Horses.
DrO |
barbara
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Username: Oscarvv
Post Number: 695
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, Oct 19, 2005 - 7:44 am: | |
Is he good at leading? Will he give to the pressure of the halter? That is the first step in teaching them to tie.
With the babies, I get them where they are very good at leading. They learn to move forward if I 'cluck'. Then I will loop the lead through the stall bars and not tie him but hold the end of the rope. I do it just for a few minutes to start with. I don't ever cold turkey tie a foal to something. Alot of times I groom them, which they enjoy. That helps take the fear out of being tied.
Be sure when teaching him, that he is in an environment he feels safe in and that his mom can't go running off without him.
-B |
Christine C. Mills in NC
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Username: Chrism
Post Number: 1107
Registered: 4-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, Oct 19, 2005 - 11:06 am: | |
Babies have very very short attention spans and can panic easily.
For tying (it seems early to me), I would not tie firmly, but just wrap a long lead through or around something sturdy that it can slip past - I would hold the other end. When the foal starts to panic and pull back, I would give, when he stops pulling, I would praise and encourage him to set forward a little.
I've always felt that the brains are delivered at a much later date than the birth. I'd likely work on just leading, picking up feet for trimming and not trying to rear/jump on me (respect space). I'd worry about tying later, when he is more mature.
Eveything you ask needs to be broken up in to very small training increments and for very short periods of training.
He sure is a cutie. |
Gary Ohlson
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Username: Gohlson
Post Number: 10
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, Oct 19, 2005 - 11:32 am: | |
From my experience with my 3 young colts, I found that "hard tying" was not a good idea. In my research and studying, I found that if you hard tie a young colt and they panic, you stand the chance of some very serious pulled muscles in the neck.
What my wife and I did with great success was to tie them while we were actually next to them and we used an old inner tube from a car tire, tied to a high post. This way, if the boys pulled back on the lead, the rubber in the inner tube gave them some release from the pressure, plus the high tie location prevented them from planting their feet and really pulling back with all their might.
But even with all these precautions, we still never left them alone and were always able to grab the lead to release them if necessary.
I hope this helps.
Gary |
Liliana Velasco Ariza
New Member
Username: Liliana5
Post Number: 5
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, Nov 2, 2005 - 6:49 pm: | |
Hello all,
Thank you very much for your advice, I have taken note from each of your comments and am happy to let you know that it worked wonders Champal (baby in Mayan) already ties up! he is so good, unlike his brother he learned very quickly and stands next to mum tied up at feeding times and also on his own (very close to mum) for grooming, my poor darling has already experienced two hurricanes but made it through like a champ. It broke my heart when I saw them after three days and his little desperate face for food! and mum on the floor very weak but thank God she made a full recovery! I am not sure what breed he is as mum is got a bit of QH and dad a bit of Andalucian, so really he is a bit of a mongrel, love him any way, he is so independent! his brother who is now almost three was stuck to mum and suckling up to 18 months old, this one still suckles but goes walk about by himself exploring.
Thank you very much again for all your comments,
Liliana |
Sara Wolff
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Username: Mrose
Post Number: 955
Registered: 1-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, Nov 2, 2005 - 8:58 pm: | |
I'm glad you and your horses made it through the hurricane season! I would think the Andalucian and QH makes a great cross; too bad you don't know what else he is. I'd love to see some pictures of him now that he is older. |
Meg
New Member
Username: arisaig
Post Number: 3
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, Jun 2, 2007 - 11:42 pm: | |
Hello folks,
My young colt is now almost 6 months old. He has spent varying degrees of time with one of my mares who enjoyed his company. The other one spent most of her time correcting him. Now we have him back in his own pasture - but he is testing both myself, husband and other animals in a dominant aggressive manner (i.e., rearing, biting, kicking). both of his testicles have dropped and we are planning on having him cut next month. He learned very early to lead, trailer, bath, ear check, legs, feet, and was quite comfortable. While we had our other mare sent for breeding we put him in with our Trivia our older mare. When La Chonga (lead mare) came back home we put him back in his own pasture now - he has become this MONSTER - Should I put him back in with our dominant mare? (She is with foal.) Or should my husband and I do the correcting? We have different ideas on how to do this. Our baby needs help - we may have been his worst enemy. |
Melissa Boschwitz
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Username: amara
Post Number: 305
Registered: 7-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, Jun 3, 2007 - 12:42 am: | |
Dr.O will probably tell you to start this under a heading of your own, but until then..
he'll learn how to treat other horses properly by hanging out with the dominant mare, but you need to develop your relationship with him... she cant teach him that... he is going thru a normal testing phase, and you'll need to firmly-and appropriately-teach him to respect you the way he does the other mare... it would probably help to have him out with the older mare during this process, so he doesnt spend too much time getting "uppity"...
unfortunately if the older mare had to spend a lot of time correcting him, then she wasnt as dominant as he needs...this stuff comes naturally to horses-with someone he really respects he shouldnt need to repeat the lesson too much.. sounds like he's challenging her constantly too, but that she isnt afraid to give back-some...
good luck.. youngsters are fun but often a challenge.. |
Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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Username: dro
Post Number: 18621
Registered: 1-1997
| | Posted on Sunday, Jun 3, 2007 - 11:14 am: | |
Hello Meg,
Melissa is correct, this is Lilianna's discussion that you have posted in the middle of. And while Lilianna is a very kind person and I am sure does not mind, by keeping discussions separate topics are easier to find and follow. Consider copying your post, creating a new discussion with a descriptive title, then paste this in your discussion. You will get more and more timely replies.
DrO |
Meg
New Member
Username: arisaig
Post Number: 4
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, Jun 3, 2007 - 3:03 pm: | |
I am so sorry, I did not realize that this would be in Melissa topic - I will read again how to do this correctly. Thanks for the information Melissa and Dr. O.
Cheers Meg |
Patricia Bell
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Username: boomer
Post Number: 270
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, Jun 5, 2007 - 4:58 pm: | |
Hi Meg, I couldn't find a new thread. Melissa is right, he is in that "testing" phase. I have a yearling who at six months was a little devil. Keep faith, continue working with him, this too will pass |
