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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Saturday, Sep 9, 2006 - 11:18 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am leaving in a few hours for a schooling show in the AM. So any quick responses would do. I was told everyone wears whatever they have (old breeches, mismatched shirts etc have happened on occasion)and I am under the opinion that I should wear proper show attire but don't want to seem like I am purposefully trying to get the judge in my favor when no one else will be.
Any opinions? If I don't do the jacket and stock tie, they only other thing I could think of would be nice show shirt and white breeches? Or if it's suggested going casual, nice show shirt in white (I have a sporty one by Romph (Sp)) and black breeches?
Guidance please.
I say regardless I should be in full attire but I don't want to be odd man out either.

Thanks,
Corinne

p.s. Dr. O. I have a new menu here and under training there is no dressage link. Where should we post any dressage related items?
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Aileen
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Posted on Saturday, Sep 9, 2006 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corinne, I haven't been able to show yet, but I'm under the impression that proper turnout is appreciated by the judges, it shows respect. How about white breeches and shirt, take the jacket along and when you get there ask the steward? Hopefully others with experience will post, it may just depend on the judge?

Sorry I wasn't more help! And have fun and GOOD LUCK!!!
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Sara Wolff
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Posted on Saturday, Sep 9, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

For what it's worth, I agree with Aileen.
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Christos Axis
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Posted on Saturday, Sep 9, 2006 - 1:51 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

You worry too much for what others will think of your appearance, Corinne.

A hard collar and tie protect your neck, a belt protects your spleen, long leather boots protect your legs. If you have these, always wear them when riding in unfamiliar conditions.

White breeches and gloves and a well fitting jacket help the judge see your position better.

Also, once you're into showing now, you should wear full show attire as often as possible to get used to it on and off the horse.

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Fran C
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Posted on Saturday, Sep 9, 2006 - 2:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ditto to what everyone else said, Corinne. Wearing proper attire is not only a reflection on you, but on how much you think of your horse and how well you care for him. I don't think a good judge will ever think you are "kissing up", I think they will appreciate the respect you are showing to the sport (and to him/her).
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Saturday, Sep 9, 2006 - 2:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks guys! I don't mean to worry but being new to the area I would hate to put others off especially when I only know these horse folks (the base folks have not been so welcoming as we are non flyers on a flying base) but when I think about it that is silly because you can never be too professional. For what it's worth I am going to show in the entire attire, shirt, stock tie, jacket, gloves, helmet and white breeches and long boots, even if as Christos says it gets us used to being in proper show attire.....plus....being prior military I always find it respectable when you are representing something to dress appropriately...ie in this case the sport of dressage...you act as an ambassador when you are in your proper attire and I think it shouldn't be any other way....even at a small schooling show.
Thanks for your opinions and reaffirming what I already thought. Off to the show! Thanks for the well wishes....it's going to be another fun weekend.

Take care everyone!

v/r
Corinne
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Imogen Bertin
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Posted on Saturday, Sep 9, 2006 - 2:12 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Absolutely right Corinne. Always dress correctly and safely. Dressing correctly does not mean you have to be flash. Part of dressing correctly is doing it with subtlety.

Probably the best showing rider I know in Ireland is Anne O'Grady (Cheryl A probably knows her as Anne Leonard, her maiden name) who is always utterly correct but her outfits never distract from the horse - which after all is mainly what the judge wants to look at.

Good luck!

Imogen
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DJ
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Posted on Saturday, Sep 9, 2006 - 11:14 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Good luck, Corrine!
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 - 9:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello everyone. Just in.....I am so exhausted I can hardly keep my eyes open. Anyway, got up at 0400 to get to the barn to braid (go figure I was the only one who did) and I did wear traditional dressage attire until the end of the day when it got so hot I thought I was going to die of heat exhaustion so I lost the coat at the suggestion of others and wore my helmet, shirt, tie, belt, breeches, hair in a bun and white gloves.
As for our scores this week we got second place in dressage equitation, although they put me in the wrong class on accident so I was riding with those in training level only and bless her heart an 11 yr old beat me and boy did she have a wonderful ride and deserved it.
As for my dressage tests, TR-2 we got a 62 , in my second, TR-4 we got a 55...eh...so so.....but I am most proud of my first level scores, both 59 for first test one and first test 2 which I have never ridden before in a show. You would think my TR-4 score would have been better because it's lower level work so it's backwards to do better at the next higher level but I will take it.
Something funny happened during one ride though....when we got to G at the end of first test one, I couldn't help myself but I burst out laughing right as my horse came to a square halt before my salute in front of the judge. It came over me and it just came out....like when you try not to laugh in church or something and can't help yourself? So I saluted and apologized to the judge but I think it was because I have been so uptight and serious about this show thing that I really believe it was two years of nervous tension about showing leaving my body. Here I am trying to be all perfect and serious and I get hit upside the head with the silly stick. LOL Thank Goodness the judge laughed too.
So all in all we have beaten ourselves by at least 20 points from my first and poor....crazy arab on a mission test at the USDF show, when I have to admit I was tense and contributed to his tension to now being totally relaxed and able to get down to business.
No more recognized shows this year because I am now two weeks behind in school work but I have reached both my goals for this year, to compete in a recognized show and to attempt to ride first level tests. Next show season I hope to get two scores at first level that can go towards my bronze......hey a girl can dream huh? And then obviously to work on second level movements at home.
Well got to go....tornado warning.....back online in the AM.
Hope you all had a great weekend.

Take care,
Corinne
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 - 9:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Oooopppps forgive me...just reading the tests and we have only improved by 16 points not 20....but that's still pretty awesome in a week.
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Chris Stevens
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Posted on Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 - 9:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corinne,

Congrats on another good show and great time. I'm hoping to get back out there this fall and work on my bronze medal too. I've been struggling with my seat lately, so have to fix that first.

A suggestion for dealing with the fly boys. When they get a little big for their britches, just make a fist, push your left hand forward and say "big tree", pull it back and say "little tree". Push your right hand forward and say "more noise", pull it back and say "less noise". If you really want to goad them, call them "air breathers".

Chris
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Shelley
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Posted on Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

OK Chris, you have GOT to tell us what that "big tree, little tree", "More noise, less Noise" stuff is all about.
We are HORSE PEOPLE here for cryin out loud !!
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Chris Stevens
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Posted on Monday, Sep 11, 2006 - 10:30 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Shelley,

Sorry for being obtuse. It's a joke trivializing the skill levels needed to fly a plane. Imagine you're sitting in a cockpit with "the stick".

Big tree: I'm getting closer to the ground, the trees look bigger

Little tree: I'm climbing, the trees look smaller

More noise: Increased throttle, the engine is louder

Less noise: Decreased throttle, the engine is not as loud.

The real point, and this reflects my personal bias against fighter pilots who in my experience are overly full of themselves, is that while flying is a skill, it ain't rocket science. Which is the lead in to the "air breather" comment, planes need air, rockets and satellites don't.

Very little would actually get done in the Air Force if it were composed entirely of flyers. Unfortunately, the elitism that Corinne referenced in her email continues despite the push of many of the Air Force leadership to move towards an Aerospace Force.

Chris
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Monday, Sep 11, 2006 - 11:48 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Chris,
When I was stationed as a single officer on an eagle base I was accepted into the flying community and flew as a NICU transport nurse. For all six years on active duty I had a call sign (Sassy) and never went by my first name. I even had my Capt bars pinned on by an exceptional F-16 commander in their debriefing room and held my promotion party in their squadron bar...then something funny happened....I married into Security Forces and got out to pursue my advanced degree. I had only heard of bias towards non flyers but had never experienced it until we moved back to a flying base, me as a civilian, husband as SF commander.
But I will have to say though that while there are many pilots that are cocky (I think simply it comes with the dangers they face in the sky and the risk of death each time they go up)not all pilots are like that in fact I have had relationships with few and are still friends and have considered many others of them brothers, but there is a different air here on this base and for the first time we have not been included in base functions that involve the flying part of the wing.
Anyway, I agree, in each base there is a mission. I have come to realize if you not a part of that main mission you may feel bias but I try to look at it another way....that just gives me more opportunities to make horse related friends outside the small city we call base.
Yes Chris we are an Aerospace Force and every mission has its importance to reaching that goal....Every mission! No matter where we are....no matter how hard it can be at times...we are proud to be Air Force!

In fact here is a pic of us from an Air Force ball.

Have a good one guys!

Take care,
Corinne
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Aileen
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Posted on Monday, Sep 11, 2006 - 11:59 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corrine, congratulations on a great show! You must be proud of yourself and your boy. Good job!

You and your husband are darling!
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Erika L
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Posted on Monday, Sep 11, 2006 - 11:59 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

That's a much better prom picture than the last one!
You guys look great. Keep up the good work of defending freedom.
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Patricia Bell
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Posted on Monday, Sep 11, 2006 - 1:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Congrats on your good day!
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Sara Wolff
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Posted on Monday, Sep 11, 2006 - 2:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hey, Corrine - good job!!

And...hats off to you and your husband. Your work is appreciated.

btw-imo that "cockiness" is what enables the flyboys to take off from a moving carrier. I know several (retired now)and they are really great guys. I know only one that was so full of himself I felt like belting him.
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Chris Stevens
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Posted on Monday, Sep 11, 2006 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ahh, but those flyboys are Navy, not Air Force I've always heard it was the carrier landings that were the exciting part, not the take off.

Don't get me wrong, as an AF brat married to a Navy man, I have a great respect and appreciation for all service members. I know one retired fighter pilot who survived multiple tours in Vietnam is about the sweetest nicest guy on the planet; others are, shall we say, far less charming. They're all individuals.

Chris
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Stacy Upshaw
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 - 8:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corinne, congrats on your shows - I'm really jealous of the weather that allows you to show in a coat at all!! You and your two dancing partners(two footed and four) look as if you are having lots of fun. Great improvement on the scores - I like showing for the same reason. I trust my instructor to strive for objectivity, but it is nice to hear from a professional who knows neither of you personally.
In this south Alabama heat, I cringe at the thought of full show attire. I am riding tomorrow(post a night shift, ughhh) in a clinic with an "R" judge, and plan to be neat but cool in some Coolmax type clothing. When I show in LA in October, we will probably still have coats excused. I thought I would ask the judge tomorrow(Dorothy Maxfield) a few things that came up in this round of discussions. I will ask her what she really thinks of riders who have their tests called, and whether she has an opinion of those who sweat it out to look nicer when they could dress down. Apparently she rides Grand Prix herself, so should be nice to hear her thoughts. I'll get back to you... have a good day, and a good ride if you are lucky enough to get one!
Hmmm. Memories of flyboys when my family lived in Enterprise, Alabama next to Ft. Rucker and I was in my twenties going home for school breaks. The same confidence that can make them obnoxious made them pretty appealing prey when I was on the prowl... ah lost youth... :-)
Stacy
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 - 10:51 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Stacy,
Thanks for all the compliments on my dance partners...husband, horse and friends.
Anyway, the weather was only in the ninties last two weeks and we had well over 50 days in a row with heat over 103....sometimes up to an index of 110. I sure hope it's cooler for you at the clinic (after night shift....yuck....as I am sure you worked the day before as well) but I would be interested in what they have to say about the attire in the heat. I only wear coolmax....both in tops and breeches...in fact there is one cute coolmax dressage top by Tuffrider that is magenta and sleeveless but the lapel looks like a traditional white button up. It took me forever to find white breeches in coolmax this late in the season but well worth the investment because they are warmer in the winter as well. Even my schooling breeches which I wore in Minot before we had to wear snow suit bottoms were coolmax and a tighter weave so they kept me warmer. Cooler in summer, warmer in winter....it's very cool technology. But I hate to wear only half of me in coolmax because one half stays cool and other sweats.....kinda gross.
Anyway, I think there is probably one reason not to wear the coat and that is when your health could be at risk because of heat retention in extreme temps (providing the show is still on). The USSA has drilled into me appropriate athletic attire in heat because of heat related injuries so I lost my coat after a few rides because I really started to get dizzy even though I was drinking 4 oz of water every 20 minutes. As for my Arab...well his breed is used to hot and try climates so he could go all day. Our USDF show last weekend had full attire regardless so I made sure I did not have a wool coat.
As for having tests called....I would love to know that too. At this stage I am still too nervous even though you could be standing there alone with me and I can whip out every test I ride. I know eventually I can go out in front of a judge and not go blank but that takes practice.
I say go for it if you can. But we had some gals get their bronze scores this last USDF show and all had callers with scores in the high 70's. I presume that while they may think it's more professional, since it's in the rule book to allow callers up to FEI they can't judge on a bias....they might...but they technically can not.
And ahhhhh my premarital youth....LOL...I remember the fly boys at Rucker as well. I went to Mount Saint Mary outside of West Point so my first plane ride ever was to visit some friends in flight school at Rucker. Then I joined the Air Force and I still smile about the memories with the flyers. One time while stationed in Okinawa some friends flew down on some air frame which I can't recall and since I was on leave that week they convinced me to fly back with them to a party in Korea. LOL. What an awesome time....I would not trade any of it for my married life but it was a great time going after "the prey!" and by the way they didn't seem to mind all the attention from the ladies! . We did laugh however on Friday nights when they would get off of work at 3 PM and go home then put their flight suits on at 8PM to go to the O'Club. They worked those bags I tell ya. LOL.

Well, have fun at the clinic.

Take care,
Corinne
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Friday, Sep 15, 2006 - 5:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Can't find the Corinne's First show post but here is a pic from the USDF show two weeks ago....Demetrius and I are on the end. LOL He looks like a pony next to the big warmbloods. This was our team "Mink and Manure" for the USDF Region 4 Adult team championships. We took Reserve Champions.

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Sue G
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Posted on Friday, Sep 15, 2006 - 8:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Great photo, Corinne! Love the team name too - did you come up with that?
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Holly Wood
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Posted on Friday, Sep 15, 2006 - 9:12 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Very nice, Corinne. I like the staggered colors in the line-up. Demetrius is just . . . well . . . so ARABIAN!!! Good for you both.
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Friday, Sep 15, 2006 - 9:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hey guys. No I didn't come up with the name Bonnie who runs Briar Fox did, but we were being judged on team spirit (it was more of a fun day) so we were hooting and hollaring before and after each other's rides. When Kim was about to go down the center line I was pumping my fist in the air showing my support and then shouted, go get em you big piece of manure just as she was about to turn in at A! She laughed all the way to X.
Then when I got the wrong lead in my test and didn't correct it....as soon as I saluted and was coming out of the arena she was yelling....Hey Hey.....that was the best wrong lead ever go Mink and Manure Whoo Hooooo! LOL It was a hysterical day.
Holly I may not have a big old warmblood but I know how to decorate...standing gray, bay, gray, bay was my idea. HA HA HA. I had to contribute something especially since most of our team was PSG to GP.
Anyway....Your right Demetrius is sooooo Arabian isn't he? He had his head in a nice carriage and was standing square until all the cameras came out then he wanted to walk off and investigate what they were. He just can't ever stand still....I sware he has ADHD. We are a perfect pair because I don't ever stop either.

Have a great weekend.

Take care,
Corinne
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Thursday, Sep 28, 2006 - 11:33 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

If it's still 90 degrees I have decided for the next schooling show to wear a Rompf Short shirt and show breeches. Do you wear the tie without the jacket?
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Chris Stevens
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Posted on Thursday, Sep 28, 2006 - 3:29 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

No tie.

Here's a link to the USEF dressage rules.

http://www.usef.org/documents/ruleBook/2005/07-DR.pdf

Chris
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Thursday, Sep 28, 2006 - 6:49 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Chris,
I have the manual but didn't think to look there! Hello.....
Anyway, I appreciate the tip.
Shirt, no tie.
Thanks,
Corinne
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Monday, Oct 23, 2006 - 5:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well....We competed in our last training show of the season Sat. at training level only as I had a hunch I had a health issue and didn't want to sit the trot :-) Got our best scores so far.....66.5 and 68.9 in TR-2 and TR-4. Then came home and confirmed my suspicion. I am happy to say that Demetrius, Rocky and Robbie are going to have a human brother or sister on the 29th of June. Just in from the clinic where I had official testing because I didn't believe the four I took at home. But don't worry for those that laughed at me when I said my life was not going to change....I am now soooooo over that! I am sorta miserable and now a little neurotic and slightly high risk so I have my first appointment in 2 weeks.
Just when I thought I could plan a pregnancy in between show seasons I am shown I am not the boss as God had other ideas and planned this pregnancy smack dab in the middle of it. LOL.
Either way I am so excited about the joys that lie ahead and hope to be able to ride as much as allowed. Will stay off the horse until my first appointment just in case that's the direction I am guided in.
Anyone have any guidance on how they dealt with riding and the horses during pregnancy? I would love some insight from horse women.
Well...I have a hankering for some tator tots so I had better sign off.
Take care everyone.

v/r
Corinne
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Sue G
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Posted on Monday, Oct 23, 2006 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corinne, that is fabulous news! I am absolutely delighted for you and Herb.

Can't help you riding wise as I have never gone through pregnancy. (Not for lack of desire but one miscarriage and four years of fruitless IVF attempts kind of made the future clear.) Just follow doctor's orders, I guess.

And additional congrats on your last show results. You've had a really good summer!

Keep a tight lid on those Tator Tots cravings!

Sue
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Dennis Taylor
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Posted on Monday, Oct 23, 2006 - 6:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Congrats Corinne .. Obviously thats about all the help I can give you. You mean you don't just have the little ones, then get back to cookin' and cleanin' next day? That's the way we do it on Mars.
DT
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DJ
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Posted on Monday, Oct 23, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Congratulations, Corrine! Can't advise you about riding while pregnant. I had to get my kids raised and moved out, before I could have a horse-LOL! Must say that I've enjoyed all. I wish you and your husband the very best. Take care.
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Holly Wood
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Posted on Tuesday, Oct 24, 2006 - 12:23 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Whoop-de-doo! How wonderful, Corinne.
I rode during my last three pregnancies . . . but only one of my kids has any interest in horses . . . hmmmmmmmmm . . .
Posting trot is best ;-) . . . Always use a mounting block . . . Do all your regular exercises and barn work as long as you can to keep those muscles toned and to burn any Tater Tot calories that may start to compound.

Start nesting, for sure, but don't "micro-nest." Relax, enjoy, dream, and do the day to day things (and don't neglect Herb . . . that's VERY important) . . . Your little one will be toddling around before you know it.
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Fran C
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Posted on Tuesday, Oct 24, 2006 - 8:27 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

CONGRATS! Corinne. Wonderful news! A dear friend of mine rode through much of her pregnancy. Her OB/GYN said that if it's excercise she normally does (which riding was), it would be fine to continue on as long as she took some common sense precautions (no galloping down the trail, jumping, that sort of thing). The doc told her that her body would tell her when it was time to stop, and indeed, by the time she was at 6 months or so, she became so unbalanced in the saddle that she then called it quits for a while.

But, definitely consult with your doctor, as I know you will. My friend's pregnancy was an easy one with no complications and she had no restrictions. Everyone is different, of course, so do be careful.

Also, after my friend stopped riding, she took great satisfaction in being just at the barn, watching others ride, grooming, just soaking it all in.

So, enjoy the riding while you can and then have fun getting ready for your little one...and enjoy every moment. Your life is about to change in a very big and very positive way (when we adopted my daughter, people kept telling me how much our lives were going to change...DUH!! like we didn't know that...I hated it when people told me that so I am very sorry I just said the exact same thing to you!!)
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Carolyn Santucci
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Posted on Tuesday, Oct 24, 2006 - 8:49 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Great news, Corinne!!!! So happy for you!!!

Can't give any advice on the riding while pregnant topic, just follow doctor's orders and what your body is telling you.

Can't wait to see the baby pictures next summer!
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Sara Wolff
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Posted on Tuesday, Oct 24, 2006 - 9:19 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Great news, Corrine! Best wishes to you and husband both.

Like many others here, I rode until I was too big to climb up on the horse, however you must follow your doctors advice. Be especially careful during your first trimester. The advice to keep working/exercising is good. Not only do you recover your shape faster, but with good muscle tone the delivery is easier.
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Stacy Upshaw
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Posted on Tuesday, Oct 24, 2006 - 2:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Congrats Corrinne! With my first pregnancy I rode dressage until 28 weeks. At that point I could really feel the uterus moving within my abdomen. It was uncomfortable, so I stopped. Second baby followed quickly by intent, but I could only ride until 20 weeks as the same sensation came much earlier. Your horse may already know you are different - my whole herd was very nosy about my belly even early on. Of course, I have had them all since they were born, but it was fun to feel their interest. Check out www.kangarookorner.com - I couldn't have done any of my farm work without my marvelous slings!! Oh yeah, back in the saddle on day 10 both times, but that was with minimal perineal trauma. Post pregnancy riding is really decided by your delivery experience. Get the best nursing bras, and best to ride right after you nurse! Best wishes... Stacy.
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Lisa Brand
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Posted on Tuesday, Oct 24, 2006 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Stacy,

Kudos on riding 10 days later....I was sitting on a "donut" during a 3 hour nite class on day 3 (my son did wait til semester break before he arrived, just wasn't a long one!)

I actually was able to ride til about my 7th month, then I had trouble getting up in the saddle (didn't have mounting blocks back then!!)....but that was 20 some years ago and I probably didn't have as much sense then as I do now
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Tuesday, Oct 24, 2006 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks ladies (and Dennis), for the Congratulations and well wishes and the insight. I need ideas for when I approach my doctors as I am sure they will be comfortable with what I am comfortable with but I just generally have no idea of how to start.
Stacy....did you post the trot and do any canter work? Being an MD in the group I am curious if any of these mechanisms will harm the fetus in early pregnancy or if the uterus is such nice protective house for the baby.
I will giving up jumping and will be riding inside where there will be no spooky things. Knock on wood I have never fallen in dressage and feel very very safe.
Right now my body is adjusting and having given up some catagory C and D medication I have been on for years I am having some insomnia and inability to focus and my memory seems to be elsewhere but I am sure I will settle in. Dogs didn't seem to mind when I forgot one other their names this morning and I was heading up to the barn this afternoon but was soooooo tired I didn't want to drive that distance so I rescheduled my lesson.
As for the animals knowing I know Demetrius has been seemingly gentle (although he always is...just now more with his head dropped when in my presence and his eyes closed). The pups want to be in my lap all the time and won't let me out of their sight even crying to come in bed at night much to my dismay as the fews time that has happened I have just gotten to sleep in between trips to the bathroom. LOL. Oh and everything smells soooooo soooooo intense and for so long I feel like a blood hound. I bet that mechanism developed to be able to smell good and bad food? Oh yes and in relation to the tots, I normally don't eat fried or fatty foods much so if I get a craving I have gotten myself a small serving.....I am also going to be proactive and start on a general diabetic diet without restricting calories (essentially 1 protein, 1 carb and a veggie per meal every two hours plus some fruit and lots of water and maybe a low sugar treat) as my twin (whose every symptom I have had so far) had gestational diabetes. In addition we are RH negative and she had Rhogam at 10 weeks thus the reason I am being seen so early. Other than that I am a healthy, exericiser who has a good diet, in good weight at 5.2 and 130 lbs and after I settle in I know this will be a lot of fun.
Well that's it for now I am going to watch Oprah....Oh No is that a nesting symptom? I don't normally watch? LOL. Have a great day and keep the tips coming. I really really appreciate them.

Thanks,
Corinne
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Shelley
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Posted on Tuesday, Oct 24, 2006 - 9:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

How exciting for you Corrine !!
Everyone, of course, has their own ideas about riding while pregnant, and that includes doctors. I think it has more to do with your general risk taking attitude and of course what kind of horse you have and what you plan to do on said animal. . .!
When I was pregnant I was still in the "I can do anything" phase of my life. And I did just that. I was lucky I did not have a fall. But I was also at my prime of riding skills and attitude. (I think that makes me a "has been")

Of course the only risk while riding, at least in the first two trimesters is falling off and hurting your baby. After that you can add the risk of pulling or straining something that has already been pushed or pulled to its limit. So, that being said, if your are riding with the attitiude of "I hope I dont fall off" you probably should not be riding.
My doctor was fine with me riding as long as I did not fall. He said "as long as it felt comfortable". I sold my event horse when I was 5 months and the only other horse I had was just started. So, that was the end of riding till my baby came. I did however hop on my pregnant, retired mare just cause I felt we had so much in common. We both had our babies 1 week apart. My friend even gave us both a baby shower at the barn. I have a picture of me, bareback on her and we are both within 2 weeks of delivering. All we were up to by then was just waddling around the arena about twice.
Oh, and you think forgetting your dogs name is forgetful? . . ? well . . . I locked my keys in the car so many times AAA finally cut me off. So I suggest you get one of those magnetic key keeper thingys. They are still making jokes about that pregnant lady.
I would also caution you about competing. Not because you are riding, it is because it is very embarrassing when you start crying right after you have a bad dressage test. Believe it or not, that competition was before I even knew I was pregnant! I was so flustered that I was crying !! . . . .I also locked my keys in the truck that day . . . cant remember if that was before or after the dressage test. OH God , I just need to blank that day out!

The biggest problem with quitting riding, in my opinion, is what to do with all that extra time and energy. I think that is where the nesting comes into play. If I could get my house 1/10 as clean and orderly as it was back then . . . . !

My last words of advice, when you do decide to quit riding . . . continue on with another form of equivalent excersise. Stay in shape! It will make delivery so much easier. I did step aerobics all the way to the end. I will tell you that I had a very easy pregnancy and did not get too huge. I suppose if you are not that lucky, you will have to back off as necessary.
I now have the joy of watching my daughter have the same thrills and love of horses I do.
Keep us updated, as you will soon find out, us moms never tire of talking about pregnancy and kids!
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 4:48 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello everyone.
As I sit up at 3:40 this morning, because all of you have sent well wishes and prayers for the baby I am carrying I thought I should let you know that I received some sad news that I am not carrying a viable baby at this time and they expect that I will lose the pregnancy this weekend or in the next week.
I am absolutely heartbroken but I have great support system in my family (Herb is by my side and the rest of the family is calling and checking one me) and my friends at the barn and of course my family at HA.
Thoughts and prayers are needed to help me through this difficult time as I grieve my loss.

Thank you.
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Stacy Upshaw
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 6:22 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Oh Corrine, I am so sorry! I'm thinking of you and Herb, and I sense that you have a healthy way of seeing this event, and will be able to let yourself grieve. Demetrius will be a great comfort - my horses helped me through the same process the year before I had my son. My thoughts are with you... Stacy
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Holly Wood
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 8:40 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Picture this, Corinne:

BIGGEST of all Bear Hugs,and here's my shoulder, too. I'm asking our Father to bless you and your family with faith and that He will fill you with His peace . . . and that after a season of healthy grief, will fill you with joy and renewed hope. You are blessed to be surrounded by loving family and friends.
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Lori
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 9:22 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

oh Corrine, ((((((hugs)))))) Weep with those who weep, mourn with those who mourn,
Please do weep and mourn, I weep and mourn with you,
As hard as it is now, this will pass, one day the sun will shine again.
Hang on honey
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Lilo
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 9:37 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thoughts and prayers are with you. I have been through that, but I had other little ones that needed me and kept me busy.
So glad that you have family support.
Lilo
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Ann
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 9:46 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corinne, sending you HUGE HUGS from N. California ..

On the first day God created horses on the second day he painted them with spots.
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 11:45 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers. Sending Big Hugs back to you!
Anyway, Stacy if you check this, may I email your personally to ask you some questions I am struggling with? Since you are a physician and have been through a similar experience and talking with medical folks always puts my mind at ease with reassurance when I have questions it would be very helpful. Only if you get some time. My email is LtSassy1@aol.com you can write me there and I will respond to your address.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers.

Hugs,
Corinne
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Chris Doyle
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Corinne, many heartfelt hugs to you and Herb. As another parent who has lost a child, I only wish I had some great instant healing words for you, but I don't, it takes time. Try to take some comfort in knowing time does heal, I know, that does not seem possible now.
Remember too, that well meaning people will say the darndest things. Their thoughts and actions always have good intentions tho it may not seem that way at the time. So many of us (I am definetely one) are at such a loss for words at times like this and say things without thinking them thru.
Take care of yourself, it is not important how you grieve, but is important that you do grieve.
Thoughts and prayers to you and Herb,
Chris
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Debbie Green
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 1:47 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am so sorry Corrine. Huge hugs!
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Carolyn Santucci
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 2:44 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corinne, I'm so very sorry. I can only imagine how devastated you and your husband are. My prayers are with you. You know how to reach me if there is anything I can do for you.

Carolyn
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Erika L
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 4:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

So sorry for you and Herb, Corinne. So many of us have been through the same thing. I is surprising how shocking and sad it can be.
I have hopes for a wonderful future for you and your husband.
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Kathleen Rowland
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corrine, I have only been using this site for a week and you have been kind enough to share information with me both times, so I wanted to say how sorry I am for your situation. One of my best friends (who now has two great kids) experienced the same thing with her first pregnancy. The emotional rollocoster is so difficult, I am so sorry.
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Corinne Meadows
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Posted on Saturday, Nov 4, 2006 - 6:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks everyone for your continued support....living away from family and friends with the military and moving every 18 months is a very difficult lifestyle and I appreciate the cyber family I have made through HA because for the first time you are friends I can take with me! :-)

Kathleen welcome to the site and please know that you have joined a wonderful family that is supportive and will keeping you going during tough times, whether it's the loss of a family member or whether it's a sick or injured horse or family dog HA members are always there for you. You also will find that it's a small world as many of us have met after talking for months or years in some cases and we are even planning on having an HA get together vacation in Missouri next fall where a bunch of horse addicts and friends can just hang out together with our horses and each other. Once again welcome you will love it here.
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Dennis Taylor
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Posted on Sunday, Nov 5, 2006 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corinne ..
My thoughts and prayers are with you. I know that love from family and friends will help you through this time. God Bless....
DT
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Fran C
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Posted on Monday, Nov 6, 2006 - 8:16 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corinne,
So saddened to hear of your loss. I'm not very good at offering comforting words, but know that I am thinking of you.

Warm hugs.

Fran
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Tonya Bauer
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Posted on Monday, Nov 6, 2006 - 9:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Corinne,

Just want you to know that there are so many people who care about you and your husband...

I'm so sorry for your loss.

Sending you my love, support and prayers.
Tonya
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Debra Dove
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 7, 2006 - 1:32 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Corinne,

My heart aches for the sadness and grief you, your husband and your family are experiencing at this time.

Please accept my sincere condolences. When my sister in law lost her baby a few years ago, I planted a pure white cyclamen plant in my garden. Every year at this time, it blooms a beautiful flower and we remember the little one that we were so eager to embrace into our family.

A year later, I became an aunt to their son.

I wish for you courage, faith and hope for the future.

Hugs,
Debra
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Sherri L. Hueser
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 7, 2006 - 2:47 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corinne,
I am so sorry to read about the sad news. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your husband.
Sherri
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Judith L Gordon
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Posted on Tuesday, Nov 7, 2006 - 5:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corrine,
I'm so sorry about your loss. I’m sending you all my prayers and strength for the future.
Lots of Love.
Judi
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Corinne Meadows
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Just wanted to say a quick hello and let you know that we are alright and hanging in there. Prayer and faith is getting us through and I appreciate all of your support.
I have not lost the baby yet and things looked hopeful on Monday but I got some labs that indicate things aren't progressing well in light of the little hope that was created by the latest US. I have one more US on Friday and will keep you all posted. Thanks for keeping us in your prayers. This has been a very emotional time and I really appreciate all of you.
Stacy sorry I haven't called yet but I have been in a tail spin with the new US results and then the labs. I will get in touch with you after the final US on Friday.

God Bless,
Corinne
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Liliana Velasco Ariza
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Dear Corinne my prayers and best wishes to you. God acts in funny ways as we know, I was fortunate to have a very healthy baby girl who now is 25 years old. Alas I lost three baby boys may be they were going to be to spoiled and turn up wrong eh.

You are not alone, I do hope everything turns up just right for you.

Love
Liliana
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Silvia
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Posted on Friday, Dec 1, 2006 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Corrine,

I've been concerned, please let me know how you are...

Silvia
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Carolyn Santucci
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Posted on Friday, Dec 1, 2006 - 10:42 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yes, Corinne, please let us know how you are doing. Your cyber-friends care about you!
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Corinne Meadows
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Hello everyone.

First I would like to Thank everyone for all your thoughts and prayers during my pregnancy, I would not have made it through without my faith and love from my husband and my family and my friends all over the country and of course here on HA who never stopped praying for us.

Our baby, was born an angel at 10 weeks old on November 30th 2006 at 12:15 PM. We named her after my husband's mother, my mother and my grandmother, all of whom are in Heaven (with the exception of my Mom). We all believe in our heart of hearts Jesus decided that our little girl would have a wonderful heavenly life with our family who have gone before us and of course in His ever loving presence. Now her Grandmothers and my Dad and Jesus won't have to love her from afar....

Here is what we imagine when we think of her and even though our eyes tear, our hearts are filled with love and peace for our little one.

Clara Monique Josephine Meadows
We Love you!



God Bless,
Corinne and Herb
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Sara Wolff
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What a beautifyl drawing; it brought tears to my eyes. I'm sure you are right when you imagine your precious baby this way.

I'm so glad you are o.k. ..at least as o.k. as one can be after a miscarrage. I'm sure God will give you and Herb another chance at parenthood when the time is right. I'm very glad you have a loving, supportive husband and family to help you through this.
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Sherri L. Hueser
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Beautiful Corinne. Your faith is apparent and will continue to comfort you while you wait for God's next gift to you and Herb, of which I'm confident will happen for you.

Take care and God Bless you.
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Dennis Taylor
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Posted on Monday, Dec 4, 2006 - 10:33 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

God bless you Corinne ..
Keep your chin up and we continue to pray for you and yours.
DT
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Silvia
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I'm so sorry Corrine. God works in mysterious ways... and what a beautiful image...


Keep the Faith!

Silvia
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Ann
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Posted on Monday, Dec 4, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

A lovely image to see ones child in...

On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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Lori
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Posted on Monday, Dec 4, 2006 - 12:58 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks for sharing the picture Corinne. Even in your pain you are ministering to others.

Enjoy your ride.
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Ann
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A lovely image to see ones child in...

On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots..
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ilona armoni
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Corinne,
My thoughts are with you, that little soul will return in another body to share your life with you and Herb. Have continued faith.
That is one of the most touching drawings I have ever seen.
Take care, be brave, and remember laughter is a great healer.
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Tonya Bauer
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Posted on Monday, Dec 4, 2006 - 4:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Corinne and Herb,

In the Bible, Book of Luke, Chapter 18:15,16:

Jesus Blesses Little Children

People were also bringing babies to Jesus to have him touch them. When the disciples saw this, they rebuked them. But Jesus called the children to him and said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these."

Clara Monique Josephine Meadows is Home in the arms of her Heavenly Father.

Love,
Tonya
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Lilo
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Posted on Monday, Dec 4, 2006 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Corinne and Herb,

My deepest condolences on your loss. You are in my thoughts and prayers,

Lilo
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Debra Dove
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Posted on Tuesday, Dec 5, 2006 - 11:41 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Corinne and Herb,

My deepest condolences...May the new year bring you renewed health, spirit, hope and faith.

Hugs,
Debra
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Corinne Meadows
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Thank you everyone! It means the world to me that you all have been thinking of us. Prayers back to you all as well.
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