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Tracey O'Loughlin
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Username: Toloughl

Post Number: 27
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 - 12:24 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Two years ago we were given a horse by a lady who said she couldn't afford to keep him any more. We have not heard from her in the past 18 months. The horse had become ill and we were considering putting him down. The previous owner rang up last week and wants him back rather than us putting him down. She has stated that she still owns him. Is this correct? Who legally owns the horse. No money changed hands at the time she gave him to us.
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Ann Cohrs
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 - 2:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

If she still owns him, then she owes you for 18 months board.
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Melissa Webster
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 - 8:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

She probably doesn't own him, but what would your objection be to giving him back rather than euthanizing?
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Tracey O'Loughlin
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

We offered her the choice of taking him or us euthanizing him and she has opted to take him which we have agreed to.
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joj
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 17, 2003 - 3:30 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Wow... Tough one. what were the terms when you got him? I wouldn't think she has any right to him any longer unless she comes up with all that back rent and feed and vet bills you paid for. Seems suspect that she hasn't been around for all this time and now the horse is to be put down, she is back. Why would that be?

On the other hand what is wrong with the horse.
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Lisa Brand
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Posted on Wednesday, Sep 17, 2003 - 1:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Tracey,

I think your decision to return him to her is a good one. Maybe her circumstances have changed and she is willing to do whatever it takes to keep him going, maybe she will have to euthanize him anyway. I think you are doing the right thing whether or not she has any rights to him. Just my opinion.

Lisa

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Tracey O'Loughlin
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Post Number: 29
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Posted on Thursday, Sep 18, 2003 - 1:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The only term when she gave him to was that we weren't to sell him on. We understood he was ours to keep forever. She also gave us his breed registration papers. I've read that "possession is nine tenths of the law unless conclusively proven otherwise". I've also read that "registration with a breed society is not conclusive proof of ownership". The horse is still registered in her name as she moved interstate before we could ask her to sign the transfer papers.
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Areetha Carter
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Posted on Thursday, Sep 18, 2003 - 10:09 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Very often people give a horse with the restriction of it not being sold or given away and what follows that logic is that the "giver" has the right of first refusal - meaning if you no longer want the horse, the "giver" can take the horse back.
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Tracey O'Loughlin
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Posted on Tuesday, Sep 23, 2003 - 7:58 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

So would be fair to say that even if the 'giver' had a first right of refusal, they don't necessarily retain ownership of the horse?
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