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Member: Goneaway |
Posted on Monday, Mar 28, 2005 - 12:55 pm: Just wondering how it normally works with AI. When you pay the stud fee/collection fees, what does it typically cover as far as the number of straws/attempts the stallion agent provides? I know it will vary some depending on the contract, but I was wondering if there was a norm.Thanks! |
Member: Canyon28 |
Posted on Monday, Mar 28, 2005 - 6:59 pm: Most contracts for qh will spell out what the fees are. For example on my stud contract, the shipping/collection fee is $200 each time, this includes fed-ex overnight to your vet, but you must pay the return shipping of the container within 72 hours. Some contracts will have a fee of $500 for shipping, this includes up to 2 shipments, but if you only need one, you dont get anything back! Some of the stud contracts will not have shipping fees, these are charged by the vet, and will average about $250 for each shipment. We try to send two baggies of a total of 1 billion living sperm, sometimes more if we dont have any other shipments or on farm breedings that day. The 1 billion is the industry norm, some places will try to get by with sending only 500 thousand or half a billion, but you dont have a real good chance of getting your mare in foal from this number when the semen is shipped.On the contract I use, the stallion fee, booking fee (paid to stud farm) and the shipped semen fee(also paid to stud farm) must be paid up front before you get any shipment. If you need another shipment, a second one, the cost of that will be billed. I have also see frozen semen that is billed as almost a full stud fee per dose, so if you use this method, make sure your vet is skilled in breeding horses with frozen semen, as it could become very costly to have to repeat it again. If you see an ad with a chute fee, this is a fee that is paid to the stud farm where the stallion stands. The owner of the stud gets none of the chute fee, it is an extra charge put on the breeding so that the stud farm will make more money. If you buy a donated breeding from one of the associations, like ncha or nrha, nrcha, be very aware about chute fees and booking fees, these will still be charged at the regular rate. If you get a half price donated breeding, the half price is for the stud fee only, you will still have to pay the full chute and or booking fee to the stud farm where the stallions stands. hope this helps. I have had more than several people think that if they are breeding by shipped semen, the only costs are for the shipments, they dont realize they have to pay the stud fee too! Chris www.canyonrimranch.net |
Member: Canyon28 |
Posted on Monday, Mar 28, 2005 - 7:06 pm: Also before signing a contract, I would ask how many motile sperm the stud owner or farm is shipping in each shipment. If they are only sending 500 thousand, which might happen with very popular stallions, I think I would pass on that breeding. The 1 billion or 500 thousand are what was alive when the shipment was extended, counted, and packaged and placed in the equitainer. What happens to it after that is all down hill. also ask if the stallion ships well and what his live foal rate from shipped semen is.Mnay stallions dont ship well, some that are 75% at the farm, are only 10% when the shipment arrives the next day at your vet.chris www.canyonrimranch.net |
Member: Canyon28 |
Posted on Monday, Mar 28, 2005 - 7:07 pm: Sorry I made an error, in both emails previous, I meant to type 500 million, not 500 thousand. |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Tuesday, Mar 29, 2005 - 7:43 am: Jackie there are many different versions but a big difference in contracts is whether you are using cooled shipped or frozen semen. Your mention of straws makes me think frozen is this true?DrO |
Member: Goneaway |
Posted on Wednesday, Mar 30, 2005 - 9:29 pm: Thank you for the replies! As we haven't picked a stud yet-just in the research phase for next year-I am not sure if it will be frozen or cooled. One stud we are considering I know is cooled...It is very helpful to hear the different ways things are handled, thanks again! |