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Member: Dres |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 - 12:31 pm: Dr. O, i read your post April 17th '99 about going back to basics with a rearing horse... i have a filly just turned 2,16'2 hands, that is high energy... when i take her out in the morning.. she is fine... but.. when i bring her in the end of the day, she is a she bitch from bad pony land...i am walking her in looking at her belly almost the whole time.. i have resorted to using a chain over her nose attached to a lunge line as i don't like being too close to her belly, and can follow her up with the longer rope... i have tried the unlocking her hind end, (circles both directions).. getting her to DrOp her head, backing her up... etc... all this can be very challenging for me when she would rather go up... (( again this is only coming in at nite))... a pattern?? how do i break it..?? she ties well..i hve done the tree standing / patience lessons with her... she will paw but does not pull anymore... i DO NOT HAVE A ROUND PEN so i can't do the round pen exercises.... i do have a dressage court, she jumped out of that, ( very athletic) too much room for her to get away from me... i am thinking maybe i should change from a chain on her nose to a be nice halter... do you have any more ideas for me... my husband is getting very upset with this filly, and wants me to fix her... HA... i am trying... any help will be greatly appreciated... |
New Member: Hhdressa |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 - 12:38 pm: Dear Ann,Have you thought about the fact that the filly may be telling you something? I have a Trakehner filly like that (at least she was when she was that age). She didn't want to be stalled. It is boring for them. Can't you leave her out? With a buddy? I have all my horses out now all the times (yes, we are competing), and I have noticed a major difference in their attitudes. Mine actually like to come in, because that is the time when they get fed. For more info about our operation: https://www.horrellhilldressage.com She really looks very energetic in the picture. Future GP horse?? Good luck, Claudia |
Member: Dres |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 - 1:43 pm: Claudia, in the summer all my horses are our 24/7 but this does not solve the behavior problem i am having with this one filly now...YES, they are soo much more happy when out with the herd... they all love coming in at night now too... i have tried changing the order of 'go'.. bringing her in first/ middle/ last... still the rearing...funny this behavior started when i sent her pasture mate away for training.. he is back now.. the behavior is still here too... i wonder, he was top dog in the pecking order, when he left, was she trying to take on the top dog place with me..? has anyone tried the be nice halters are they worth my effort in getting one.. .. what other tricks besides unlocking the hind end etc. can i do with her to keep her attention on ME... any imput is again appreciated... Ann |
Member: Hhdressa |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 - 2:19 pm: Anne,That explains a lot. There is a wonderful little book out "Emotional healing for horses and ponies". It is available at amazon.com and costs a little over $ 10.00. It deals with emotional problems and how to apply Bach Flower Remedies. We had very good results with them. You may want to give it a try. Another avenue that I like for all my young horses is the Parelli ground work. I don't care for the riding part, but the ground work has some nice psychological insights and works well (like in everything else, you have to work with the horse.) Hope that helps. Claudia |
Member: Garnet |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 - 4:07 pm: Before resorting to mechanical solutions consider a trial of a low carbohydrate diet. It seems to help many horses with their attitude. I use a mixture of 100# Black Oil Sunflower Seeds (BOSS), 100#Alfalfa Pellets, 50# Oats but oat or wheat bran would be even lower carb and 1/3 cup ground Flax seed. I feed 6 cups of this mixture at each feeding, adjusting for activity level. Also free choice grass hay (not afalfa). My horses temperaments are much clamer on this low carb diet.I also agree on the Back Flower Remedies for any emotional balancing. Rescue Remedy is the general trauma, excietment, overstimulation remedy. There are particular ones for specific issues. But balancing her minerals with plant based sources and giving her the energy calories she needs in a slow release form can do wonders for nerves and reactivity. I also like to supplement with Seameal (www.solidgoldhealth.com) and perhaps a bit of Spirulina or deydrate Wheat Grass Juice for enzymes, vitamins and minerals in a plant based form. Plant based sources of minerals and vitamins are so much more easily absorbed and utilized (bioavailable) than vit min supplements that you do not need the large quantities of supplements. Enzymes aid digestive balance. Probiotics are also an everyday regimen around my barn. They ferment the water soluble fiber in hay and feed concentrates into useable fatty acids. Without them the hay does no good. A steady supply ensures gut health and pH balance, this makes everything work better. Magnesium is very calming and often deficient in equine diets, since it is not added back to the soil when fertilizing pastures and hay. Minerals and vitamins are the cofactors that make enzymes work so are very basic to body processes. A deficiency in humans can cause muscle spasms, twitches and sleeplessness. Calcium too but it is more abundant in the diet. But should be 1:1 with Mg, previously it was thought 1:2, but the importance of Mg is coming to our attention lately and the recommeded ration has been raised by some nutritional authorities. It is also tied to laminitis, founder, hypothyroidism and hard, overly tight muscles. And of course look at her cycles and see if there is a correlation there. Sounds more like an every day thing the way you describe it though. Hope you find some solutions for this risky behavior. Anytime we have to resort to chains and special halters there is something to be looked for. It is not just attitude and learned behavior although that is of course part of the cycle. |
Member: Hwood |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 - 6:25 pm: Hi, Ann,I am not a nutrition expert or someone who can give you a success story about using a particular remedy on my horse. I will not discount any of the above, because I just don't know . . . however, I just got back from a ride, and while I was riding, I was giving your dilemma some thought, and it came to me that the problem is not what your filly IS doing, but what she IS NOT doing. What is it that you want her to do? . . . Walk forward and be responsive to you. Whenever she is rearing, she is stopping the forward motion. . . . for whatever reason . . . and the reason isn't really important because when you are around her and asking her for a response, in order for you to keep yourself and her safe, she needs to obey you. In this instance, I think that going back to the basics is just teaching her to respond 100% of the time to move forward on cue (whatever your cue might be) . . . a verbal cue is probably the easiest, but body language will work, too . . . although if you have a leaDrOpe in one hand and a dressage whip in the other, it might be hard for you to give a body language cue. Going to the pasture in the morning, put her through her paces by not taking her directly to the pasture . . . lead her down the driveway, behind the barn, up to the gate to the pasture, back to the barn . . . anywhere you like, until you are convinced that she is listening and responding to you, not just heading off in the direction that SHE wants to go. So . . . what do you do if she rears while you are doing all of these leading exercises? . . . you very matter-of-factly smack her with the dressage whip on the cannon bone (the hind cannon closest to you is best because she is standing on it) then you promptly give the cue and continue to ask her to move forward . .. Every time she goes up, you just matter-of-factly (as if you do it everyday . . . and you might be for a while :-) ) give her a sting and then ask her to move forward PRAISING her for every first step she takes after comes down and moves forward . . . Key for you will be to not lose focus or patience. Your focus is not that she will stop rearing, but that she will go forward when you ask. Also, your work schedule may not allow this, but try leading her back to the barn at different times of day . . . Or . . . just take her down the road for a walk at lunchtime . . . Putting her to work, as you are doing, whenever she loses HER focus is a good idea, but just remember that YOUR focus is to get her to respond to your forward cue . . . all the time . .. whenever you ask . . and please don't use a chain on her nose or under her jaw. She should be leading with no pressure on the rope, but just off your body language and cue, following your shoulder and stopping whenever you stop. . . . and all the handlers should use the same cue and expect the same specific response from her. Holly |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 - 8:54 pm: Ann,I think the idea of emotional healing and flower essence therapy are well....of unproven and questionable efficacy. Holly's suggestions are very good. Me, I would switch the chain to the gum for a little more leverage, negatively reinforce the unwanted behavior, and expect to have the problem fixed in about 30 seconds but I have used the smack while rearing many times with excellent results. I think it refocuses her emotions. These are important lessons because she is likely to carry this behavior on under saddle. DrO |
Member: Dres |
Posted on Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 - 9:32 pm: Holly, Dr. O thank you.... i like what Holly has to say about keeping the forward... i don't think Prima's problem is forward.. if any, maybe too forward as she wants to lead me .. all tho, when rearing the forward is lost and i almost have a back wards horse... well actually i do have a back wards horse as i get sooo frustrated that i chase her back till she DrOps down and settles.. one of many things i have tried doing with her..today i was aware of every move she made eyes/ears.. and when i noticed that i was loosing her i immediately took her in a tight circle unlocking her hind end... at one point she went up on the circle but i was at the advantage and could pull her down as i was at her side and could get her off balanced...and had her move her hind legs even faster crossing over one another... this is a process for sure... Holly i do bring her in at different times of the day for her mini lessons, then put her back out to pasture... funny, her 'fetlock' clock tells her that this is not the witching hour and she is lovely to lead... a broke horse?... it is the 5-6'o'clock hour that she turns to the she bitch... i have taken her to the patience tree at that time to mix it up and had her stand for an hour before i put her to bed... i have really tried a lot of things .. i just have to find SOMETHING that will break her pattern... Dr. O i have used a lip chain on her at very ugly windy rainy times when ALL THE HORSES ARE ON EDGE... i have done this mostly for my safety in getting her in... i even tried bailing string on her gums that put no pressure until she went up... only that was hard for me to handle the string and the lead rope and walk at the same time.. LOL... i would love to take the chain off, but feel if i do i am at the disadvantage, and don't want her learning that she can get away from me if she pulls hard enough.... ugh... this is the first filly i have raised that is truly going through the terrible twos..!!! Garnet,i am not feeding any HOT food stuff, never do... but understand how that could make her worse for sure... bring on more ideas. please... a combination of something is going to work... Ann |
Member: Garnet |
Posted on Monday, Apr 14, 2003 - 2:40 am: Glad to hear she is not on a grain based diet. No grain is a good start to a clam-er horse.Something about 5-6 Pm that makes most of us cranky, babies particularly, as soon as the sun goes down everyone feels better. I have watched this for years since reading this and noting that it was true for many young toddlers and infants. Also true for adults but we tend to compensate. Can you correlate her moods with the sun setting? |
Member: Imogen |
Posted on Monday, Apr 14, 2003 - 4:44 am: I would suspect it is excitement before food if you have a regular evening routine bring them in then food, since it appears from your changes of order that it is not herd-boundness.When you try bringing her in at other times do you feed her or not? Have you tried not feeding them until later in the evening (say an hour after bringing them all in, I wouldn't try just not feeding her as that would be bound to lead to hissy fits). Just wondered. I have a horse that is 90% of the time the classic quiet halfbred hunter but rears coming away from others in the field if they are in a dippy mood and running around. I just try to keep things calm, always use a long rope and look out for the pre-rear symptom (shaking of head from side to side in her case) in which case I speak to her, distract her, try to get her moving forward. She broke my finger very badly doing this 6 months ago, it will never be right now, so I do have sympathy with your plight and with your husband's concern. All the best Imogen |
Member: Hwood |
Posted on Monday, Apr 14, 2003 - 6:56 am: Ann,Imogen's post has brought up other questions for me as far as feeding schedule and such. I just really want to figure this one out . . . . Somehow, you have to make her understand that her decision to rear is the worst thing she could ever decide to do. It sounds as if you have really tried to capture her attention through working her on the lead, but it hasn't gotten through to her, yet. Does she ever come to the point in the evening, after you've done your circles and moving her over in the hind, when she stops rearing or is she rearing right up until you enter the barn? I'm not there, so can't see the scenario . . . I don't know how long you keep her working until she comes to focus on you . . . maybe it's different every night . . . or maybe she never gets to that point . . . If she is unfocused for the entire time, then I believe that you need to camp out with her on the lead (get your husband to stand nearby with extra water bottles, towels and energy bars) and work with her until she finally DrOps her head and settles inside and says, "Okay, Mom. I understand . . . rearing is NOT okay. NOW can I have my dinner?" . . . And the next evening it might take just as long to bring her to that point, but if she realizes that you are not going to give up until she acts like a lady on the end of the lead, then I believe the behavior will stop. You have proof that she knows how to act and lead correctly. I think this is an attitude thing and you just have to be more stubborn than she is . . . however long it takes. Does this make sense to you? I wish I could see this as it happens. Best wishes. Holly |
Member: Dres |
Posted on Monday, Apr 14, 2003 - 10:23 am: Imogen, no, when i bring her in during the afternoon for mini lessons i do not feed her..hand graze some,. all tho, i do put some treats in the trailer for her trailer lesson... which she loves to RUN into the trailer to get them.. LOL..Holly, i don't quit with the unlocking till she DrOps her head and i see her licking and chewing.. this usually does not take more then a full circle or two at most... i immediately walk on a step or two and give BIG pats on the neck, then bing/bang/UP, she will start or try again.. circles, unlocking,. head down ,,lick/chew., forward again,...bringing her in a short distance can take 30 mins.. others 3.!!!! now my winter paddocks are bare of grass, oh but the spring pastures are thigh high (( when they are dry enough to pasture in))so i free fee grass hay all day...i don't think its a hunger issue, but will feed her 1/2 her dinner of alfalfa before i bring her in this week, just to see... Garnet, a witching hour for horses, i agree that with my children they seemed to 'colic' every night between 6 and10 pm... i HATED IT...LOL... so maybe she does have a bad time of day... hope i never have a show time for her at that time..hehehe... i believe this filly really is good natured/ high energy, but really has no bad bones in her, just confused and has developed a bad habit... my plans with her are really not to show, she is out of my foundation brood mare that i lost a while back and i am hoping that she will carry on the lovely spot gene and incredible movement of the classic dressage horse too... BUT, she has to be manageable and easy to deal with...i can't have her teach this to her first foal... ((not bred till next year after much discussion on this site of breeding 2 year olds)) today, i am going to get a cotton rope halter to fit her, a long lead rope, will toss the lunge line (its difficult to deal with).. and will continue with our lessons... again if any new ideas come up ... I AM LISTENING... Ann |
Member: Suzym |
Posted on Monday, Apr 14, 2003 - 12:37 pm: Hi Ann ~ Golly, I really DO sympathize with you! This kind of thing can really get you pulling your hair out. However, I have to agree with Holly - you may have to camp out with her and just take as long as it takes for her to understand that rearing in a NO! Since this seems pretty entrenched, in may take a while and try your patience to the MAX. Still, I do believe it's the only way.I'm thinkin' about ya, buddy! |
Member: Garnet |
Posted on Monday, Apr 14, 2003 - 3:27 pm: Sometimes it just takes a lot of consistency and patience to convince them. Amazingly enough they will seem to be not getting "it' for the longest time and then one day, they do, seemingly over night. So don't think you are not making progress if you do not see incremental change. I would just be consistent in what ever you do, rather than constantly changing your method, decide on one course of action and stick with it, don't get upset or seem to lack confiedence since she will be looking for you to show her "the way" in a heard leadership type role, and any hint of negative emotion could just cancle out the message. It's a thought anyway.Also I would give Lavendar Oil and Resuce Remedy a try. I know they are not scientifically proven or anything wonderful like that but they are cheap and well, the Lavendar Oil smells good! Both are balancing, not tranquilizing, to the emotions. Try a health food store, most will have them. Put a DrOp or two of Lavendar Essential Oil on your hands, rub them together and then rub lightly over her nose and poll. |
Member: Hwood |
Posted on Monday, Apr 14, 2003 - 4:46 pm: Ann . . . it sounds to me as if you understand the psychology behind the work you give your filly to do . . .If we didn't already know that the filly leads well and can behave like a lady at all other times, I would suggest a vet exam or taking the training very slowly . . . My view from here, far away in Vermont, is that it is an attitude issue and the filly has not yet been convinced that she needs to obey you in this . . . I know this is awfully tough on you. I can feel the frustration and bewilderment and resentment that you must feel over doing everything you know to do and having her STILL act like a total ditz. . . . Somehow, she has to be convinced that it is in her best interest to quit the rearing and just walk with you. I don't know what will be the technique that clicks that little light bulb on in her brain, but you know your horse, and maybe something brilliant will come to you in your sleep . . . (sometimes that's how it happens!) . . . I still feel very strongly that if you can outlast her resistance by asking her to do what she doesn't want to do whenever she goes up, that she will eventually realize that the most loving thing she can do for herself is to move forward and lead at your shoulder. I have two seen similar problems resolved in a few hours or in a day . . . In each case, the handler would never give in and KNEW in her heart that the horse would figure it out if she just kept asking for what she wanted the same way and offered praise each time there was a tiny breakthrough. One of the sessions took eight hours . . . (with a lunch break thrown in) If you absolutely cannot outlast her every evening (and you probably already know this) be sure you end your session on a positive note with some kind of obedient response from the filly and some kind of praise from you. Bless you. Holly |
Member: Alden |
Posted on Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 - 2:37 pm: Hello Ann, I’m gonna chime in with my two cents worth, a rearing horse can be very dangerous. I believe that we should manage our horses so they feel as good as possible, so I don’t like the arguments of changing feed, etc, because they have too much energy (feeling good). We have to train/channel the energy. Reading the above posts and looking at the picture (is that taken in the evening or morning?) here is what I think.She is rude, in that she is trying to push past you, to get to the barn/food. You block the forward motion (what she wants to do) with the chain so she transfers that energy/motion up. Now, when she is up she is exposing some real tender, vulnerable under belly, and that is where I would direct my reprimand. All the horses I’ve dealt with come down real fast and aren’t near as willing to expose themselves again if they know their belly gets cracked with the lead rope when exposed. Rather than pull on the chain when she wants to go ahead I would let her go past me giving her a loose line, when the butt is just ahead of you put light pressure on the halter (rope halter preferred), spank the butt with the lead rope if she doesn’t turn on light press and procedure to lunge two to three circles. To put it more simply, make the wrong thing hard and the right easy. Walking nice next to you should be easy, anything else results in a reprimand and/or lots of work! Being a two year old I would be much more severe in reprimanding rearing than pushing forward. In other words, I would be much more forgiving of her bouncing around like a ping pong ball in a dust devil while on the lead line if she has been in a stall for a couple days than if she were just in the pasture and going to the barn to be fed; but the rearing always deserves a reprimand. It is hard being two years old sometimes! Good luck, Alden |
Member: Pones |
Posted on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 - 7:25 am: Hello AnnI appreciate your predicament, and my friend who I share facilities with has a 17.3hh Appaloosa. He was problematic to lead - liked going at his own pace! - and she too used a chain; that is, until she started on Parelli training with him. Like Claudia, we have only done ground work, but the difference with Reuben is amazing. He is now more responsive, and respectful. I think you are responsible to use a chain, as long as the only time she feels it is when she misbehaves. After all, that's far better than having a loose horse. Another way to use the chain is to have that and a normal lead rope, only using the chain when you need to. A horse walking on a chain should have learnt to walk on a loose rein by your side. By far and away the best thing for Reuben was the Parelli rope halter. The horses are more responsive to them, and they release as soon as you release the pressure. It stands to reason that a rope halter is going to have more pressure than a wide halter. With regard to the rearing itself, you are right in your theory that she is challenging you. Just look at horses in the paddock playing. Defending is done by bucking, and attacking is done by rearing (and/or biting). She does need to learn that you are above her in the pecking order - respect your space etc. as Alden says above. How are you doing now?! |
Member: Dres |
Posted on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 - 10:47 am: Heidi, thanks for the thoughts...as far as the filly goes now, i took her to a 3 day colt starting clinic... she and i learned many valuable lessons... i don't know if you know what a 3 day "crash" course clinic is like... CRASH is an operative word here.. The first day we brought our young horses out and turned them loose all together in a large arena... the clinician chased them around on his horse just to get the herd to jell...my filly has always been with family so i guess she did not understand body language and got kicked several times... she learned... and then decided that the herd was NOT the place she wanted to be in.. it was tough getting her in the middle with the group and she became very defensive kicking out often... Then we haltered up our horses and one by one brought them into the round pen to saddle up... my filly was last, we knew she was going to be a challenge... She was, it was obvious that she was not halter broke so he ponied her... she reared and reared and REARED.... he just kept her on the line and kept up the pressure with the pony horse till she quit and followed nicely... he then got off and worked her some on the ground... she was a cup cake..!! Then he put the heavy western saddle on her.. she stood like a champ... and showed us some 'games' to do with the lead rope over the saddle horn with light pressure to get them to turn outside and around in front of us both directions... she became very light to the rope ..!! Again he let the horses out in the herd to work out the saddle issues if any... ( filly had none only herd issues)... again we gathered them up and proceeded to climb up... just leaning over the saddle etc at first... filly was a champ.. that day was over.. Day two... more of the same.. and filly needed more of the pony work.. short memory..? just stubborn.? testing..? she lost again... He also did some round pen work.. hooking up ,, turning into the circle trotting in to the handler etc... this took her some time to figure out but when she got it ... SHE GOT IT GOOD... clinician said that she was smart and when she learned it she did not let it go... then. more of the herd work... this was funny, when ever someone walked into the large arena with the herd, the filly would turn in and run to the human with head down and wanting the reward of a head pet .. cus that is what YOU humans want!! we all got a chuckle out of this.. more sitting on the horse and just letting them go where ever they wanted at any speed... ""BE READY TO RIDE YOUR HORSE"" is what the clinician would say.. Day three, was easy... filly had it... no ponying, no round pen... she was lovely., rode her for an hour.. she was responsive to very light pressure on the lead rope , turn left, turn right... no bits I brought her home a tired , an educated mare... She has been lovely ever since... walks nicely at my side... if she starts to get in front of me i change directions QUICKLY... and with FORCE... making her idea not as pleasant as my idea of just walking in... NO REARING YET.. i am not sure if this CRASH course is the answer to others but it sure helped us... its a risk, horse getting kicked.. accidents in the pen.. there were several.. but she was a risk at home to , so i was willing to take it... and am glad i did... thanks for asking... Ann.. |
Member: Dres |
Posted on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 - 10:52 am: a happy mare.... |
Member: Hwood |
Posted on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 - 10:59 am: Great news, Ann, . . . but I have to agree that putting a group of horses in the round pen together is risky and not something I would do. I like the Lyons' philosophy of: Rule #1: You can't get hurt. Rule#2: Your horse can't get hurt. Rule #3: Your horse should be calmer AFTER the training session than BEFORE. It worked out well for you, though, and like you said, you were willing to take the risk. I'm glad it worked out for you . . . and that the filly is more respectful of you now. She's a beautiful mare on the outside . . . and now more beautiful on the inside, too.Holly |
Member: Pones |
Posted on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 - 12:38 pm: Hi Ann! Well done in getting somewhere - not my way of going, but I am sure you will have learnt a lot in the three days, as well as your mare. As long as she retains respect for you, you are on to a long and happy partnership :-)She is a stunner - your horses are just what I wanted (and couldn't find here in the UK!). Good luck and keep us posted with how she progresses now she's home. Heidi |
Moderator: DrO |
Posted on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 - 6:21 pm: What a great report Ann. Sounds like an old fashion mustang round up. Concerning the rearing: during the early stages did she ever go over completely?DrO |
Member: Dres |
Posted on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 - 6:52 pm: early stages as at home?... YES, several times, that did not seem to scare her tho... that is when i started leading with a lung line as i did not like the fact that she could get away when flipping.. she never got away after that.!as far as the ponying at the clinic,..no , she never went over... but boy did she put up a good fight.. we all felt sorry for the pony horse holding on to her... as you can see from the picture she is a lot taller then the 1/4 horse... actually she was the tallest / youngest in the group... just came in from working with her today... lovely girl... she wants so to please now... i think she did not have a clue what us humans wanted from her.. and it had to be a hard lesson to make her see... guess i don't speak horse as well as i thought. Ann |
Member: nonie |
Posted on Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 - 11:21 pm: Hi Ann--I just found this post when I was searching something else. I loved your description of your colt breaking clinic. Your mare is probably well advanced by now, but I took my 4 year old Arab filly to an almost identical colt breaking clinic here in Pennsylvania in September. Can I ask who your clinician was? Ours was Bryan Neubert. He was great. It was a four day clinic, and run almost exactly as the one you describe.Zoe |
Member: dres |
Posted on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 - 11:08 am: Greetings Zoe, I honestly can't remember this clinician name, he came from Texas.. Bryan was not his name.. Since that year I have learned a ton.. I guess we are on a continual learning curve I would hope..I now work my young ones differently and have yet to have the problems I had with that filly.. My horse language has expanded hugely.. Regarding that mare, I have posted pictures of her recently, she is going great and yes she could go thru the upper levels in dressage.. Good luck at your clinics.. On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots.. |
Member: nonie |
Posted on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 - 11:46 am: Thanks for replying so promptly, Ann! Your filly is absolutely beautiful!! Would you care to elaborate sometime on the changes you have made in terms of how you handle horses? I hope you are having a wonderful holiday.Zoe |
Member: maggienm |
Posted on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 - 12:15 pm: Very nice Ann, you must feel relieved and rewarded for your efforts.What is your mares breeding? |
Member: dres |
Posted on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 - 12:28 pm: This is my long yearling out of the above mare... I have started him from weanling age doing the Parelli 'games' with him. He understands how to disengage his hind end from the end of a 12 ft. rope by just a lean of my body, He understands that when I point he is to look in that direction and even at times will put his nose on the post or ? Last week when I took these photos, we had sent him thru a small course, the tarp , ground poles , barrels,, We got him to push the barrel with his nose again on the end of the 12ft. lead line.. I taught him to lead behind me at the end of the line not beside me and that he is not allowed to come up any closer unless asked.. He loves the games all this only at the walk as his knee growth plates are wide open still. I expect him to be as tall as mom or taller in the next two years.. The key here was to start his language early on as he like mom is growing quickly.. Have fun..On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots.. |
Member: dres |
Posted on Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 - 12:36 pm: Lori, Prima is out of my TB/Warm blood / Appy mare.. I bred her to a 97% foundation Appy sporthorse stallion to get Tom the above.. Mom is VERY athletic with huge ground covering strides, Tom is going to follow in her huge foot steps, only his temperament. is so much easier then her's was.. Thanks for asking .. i could talk about my horses all day long..On the first day God created horses, on the second day he painted them with spots.. |